Those with parkway sg

[thepeach80]

AJ doesn't use the clip either but I urge him too if we go on long drives. He can do it himself usually but it's easier if I help him. If Evan rode in it, I'd make him use it.

 

[Babywearing Meghan]

Yup, it's not mandatory, never has been.

this is really good to know, On halloween Julianna was in a hoop skirt and could not do the crotch clip thing, I tried to figure out how to get it to work, had her hiking up the skirt ect, finally she flat out refused and crossed her arms and said no way, I gave in cause honestly who wants to ride with their underwear showing lol, I always felt bad for caving cause I was never 100 percent sure if it was mandatory or not.

 

[bubbaray]

Not using the clip here (thanks Quassee!). DD#1 could do it on her own but said it was uncomfortable.

 

[Baylor]

I am not really concerned with comfort when it comes to safety.. I want to make sure if I have to stop fast, he can not slip under that belt.

I think that this is my first pick!

 

[Pixels]

Yup, it's not mandatory, never has been.

Ahh, thanks! I remember reading Darren's blog about it being mandatory. Good to know it's not, as I assume it can get quite uncomfy for older kids!

What we were initially hearing was that the strap would be mandatory, but they changed it just before the seat was actually released.

 

[luckyclov]

I am not really concerned with comfort when it comes to safety.. I want to make sure if I have to stop fast, he can not slip under that belt.

I think that this is my first pick!

You should be concerned, somewhat, with comfort. If they're not comfortable, they're less likely to sit properly or be a responsible rider. Those two things are very important when related to boostered kids. At some point, when they reach a certain age/maturity level, you've got to give their input, within reason, consideration. If I forced my DS to use the SG clip, he'd be pissed off every ride, the whole ride - slouching, jerking, yanking, leaning...all of which would distract me from good driving.

 

[carseatcoach]

A child his size and age is not in great danger of submarining.

 

[Baylor]

You should be concerned, somewhat, with comfort. If they're not comfortable, they're less likely to sit properly or be a responsible rider. Those two things are very important when related to boostered kids. At some point, when they reach a certain age/maturity level, you've got to give their input, within reason, consideration. If I forced my DS to use the SG clip, he'd be pissed off every ride, the whole ride - slouching, jerking, yanking, leaning...all of which would distract me from good driving.

I am not really. I have always had my kids in seats and they accept that there is no option except to be belted. I would not let something poke them or stick them or anything.. But they just accept that they are in the seat I put them in and that is that.

 

[Chely7425]

I agree that I do think comfort should be considered. My oldest is 2.5, and is still RF but there are seats he HATES (names the CA and XTSL, the head wings are a no go with him) and if I put him in them he screams bloody murder the whole time we are driving. Now, I am not going to give him the option to FF on a regular basis or to ride in a booster, but I will give him a choice as to which RF seat he prefers.

 

[Baylor]

I just don't have that really high on my list. If that belt is to prevent submarining and I don't latch it for comfort sake and he submarines.. well then it would have been worth the discomfort.

 

[Maedze]

I just don't have that really high on my list. If that belt it to prevent submarining and I don't latch it for comfort sake and he submarines.. well then it would have been worth the discomfort.

There's absolutely no reason to think a 6 year old of average build is going to submarine.

I wouldn't dream of forcing my kids to sit in a seat that was uncomfortable to them if there were plenty of safe alternatives.

 

[Baylor]

There's absolutely no reason to think a 6 year old of average build is going to submarine.

I wouldn't dream of forcing my kids to sit in a seat that was uncomfortable to them if there were plenty of safe alternatives.

Maybe, but it is one more guard against it. Everyone has to choose what works for them and their kids.

 

[Maedze]

There's a chance a cow could jump off an overpass, land on your car and give your kid a skull fracture. Why aren't your children wearing helmets in the car?

 

[Baylor]

There's a chance a cow could jump off an overpass, land on your car and give your kid a skull fracture. Why aren't your children wearing helmets in the car?

Come on.. Not even close to the same thing.. I know that I can not protect them from every conceivable danger, but if there is some thing that is part of the seat design and it serves a purpose, why not use it to make them as safe as I can in that seat.

 

[Maedze]

Frankly, your kid is more likely to get struck by a falling cow than he is to submarine out of a booster.

Studies on submarining showed a risk for children under 40 pounds. Little preschoolers. Not big, developed six year olds.

The seat is perfectly safe without the SG clip. It passes all testing without it.

There's nothing wrong with using the clip, but claiming there is some great safety benefit worth making a child miserable is completely inaccurate.

 

[Baylor]

Frankly, your kid is more likely to get struck by a falling cow than he is to submarine out of a booster.

Studies on submarining showed a risk for children under 40 pounds. Little preschoolers. Not big, developed six year olds.

The seat is perfectly safe without the SG clip. It passes all testing without it.

There's nothing wrong with using the clip, but claiming there is some great safety benefit worth making a child miserable is completely inaccurate.

I never said that. Just saying that if the seat has the added precaution it is something I want my child to use.

 

[mommyof3tx]

Really at his size it's possible it may not be comfortable. I have a very skinny almost 7.5yr old, he's a little over an inch taller than your son and almost 5lbs lighter, he's a skinny thing. He has the Parkway SG and he doesn't use the clip, it's very uncomfortable to him, it bothers his "manhood" you could say lol. It's not just a little discomfort but very bothersome to him and if I forced him to wear it I'm sure he would be trying to move over some in the seat so it didn't do that therefore not sitting properly. Bigger boys could probably easily have the same problem. I just think you should keep an open mind about it, the techs here are saying that he is very low risk of submarining and even they (with all their knowledge) would allow it to be optional if it came to comfort like that. Hopefully, if you get the seat it isn't a problem, but if it is you might want to think about how he may move around in that seat to fix that discomfort if forced to wear the clip.

 

[Baylor]

Thanks for your post. I am only commenting on how I feel and think about my children and their safety. The point of this seat for me is that 4th point of protection.

 

[luckyclov]

You could always wrap them in nerf and duct tape them to the booster as 5th and 6th points of protection.

Disclaimer: In no way was the above meant to be sound advice. Nerf would likely decompress in the event of impact.

 

[LISmama810]

Personally, if I had that seat I wouldn't use the clip. I'd be more concerned about damage to my child's genitals in a crash (or even a hard stop) than any theoretical protection it might lend in the unlikely event that he were to submarine.

Maybe I'm cynical, but I see it as a pretty much useless feature put there to make parents paranoid about the idea of submarining, and therefore sell more seats.

I'm not saying it's ONLY a marketing gimmick, but... it's close, IMO.