What you may be hearing is the difference of when the flagship stores get their preorders and when the other stores get their regular shipments. There could I fact be a good number of weeks in between them. While they have not been too great giving clear shipping schedule, they have spelled out that not everyone will get them at the same time. They have always said that most flagship stores put orders in for the first batch a loooong time ago and will get the first batch. Other retailers like amazon.com will get it after that. That being said a preorder from amazon that I friend put in has a ship arrival arrival date of Oct 17. I ordered from albeebaby, the flagship they mention most and I have not heard any exact dates on my order yet, but they said they would write me before shipping. (I set that up so I could make sure I had that kind of funds avaible on my card and frankly if I still needed them or if I had to buy others)