Small list of third row vehicle pricing

monstah · Oct 9, 2008

I have compiled a list of pricing that others may find helpful.

I took the vehicles from 2006 to 2008 that are listed in the top 10% (in order) of www.informedforlife.org for safety and that also have third row seating and listed their pricing.

The 2008's are actually starting prices, and you can expect the 2009's to be priced within $1,000 of this.
The 2008 prices should be going down as we get closer to 2009.

2008
Kia Sedona (van)
20,049
Honda Odyssey (van)
25,860
2009: 26,255
Acura MDX (suv)
40,195
Ford Taurus X (suv)
27,400
Hyundai Entourage (van)
23,995
Buick Enclave (suv)
33,220
GMC Acadia (suv)
30,140
Saturn Outlook (suv)
28,625
Mazda CX-9 (suv)
29,500
Honda Pilot (suv)
27,595
Hyundai Veracruz (suv)
27,045
Chrysler T & C (van)
23,415
Subaru B9 Tribeca (suv)
29,995
Toyota Sienna (van)
24,400

The 2007 & 2006's have the expected retail price's as listed on www.edmunds.com.
These are beginning trim level prices (mostly.) Higher trim levels & options will be more expensive.

2007
Kia Sedona (van)
13,270
Honda Odyssey (van)
EX: 21,289
Hyundai Entourage (van)
SE: 16,757
Mazda CX-9 (van)
Sp AWD: 22,251
Honda Pilot (suv)
LX AWD: 18,744
GMC Acadia (suv)
SLE-1: 20,629
Saturn Outlook (suv)
XE: 20,478
Subaru B9 (suv)
7 pass: 20,672
Hyundai Veracruz (suv)
GLS AWD: 20,506
Nissan Quest (van)
3.5SL: 18,522
Ford Freestyle (suv, discontinued)
SELAWD: 18,083

2006
Kia Sedona (van)
EX: 12,475
Honda Odyssey (van)
LX: 17,124
Honda Pilot (suv)
LXAWD: 16,885
Subaru B9 Tribeca (suv)
7 pass: 19,607
Nissan Quest (van)
3.5: 14,033
Ford Freestyle (suv)
SELAWD: 16,280

I hope this helps someone else.

TechnoGranola · Oct 9, 2008

I think you should list the Acura MDX since it's in the top 1% for safety and is a fabulous vehicle!

monstah · Oct 9, 2008

TechnoGranola said:
I think you should list the Acura MDX since it's in the top 1% for safety and is a fabulous vehicle!

Updated, and I didn't leave any 3rd row vehicle out!
I agree, the MDX is my dream car!

mimieliza · Oct 9, 2008

Wow, I'm adding the Kia Sedona to my list of vehicle to look at when we need something newer! Thank you!

monstah · Oct 9, 2008

mimieliza said:
Wow, I'm adding the Kia Sedona to my list of vehicle to look at when we need something newer! Thank you!

Just beware that residual value, I would consider a Sedona if you have no intentions of selling it again after a couple of years.

Guest · Oct 9, 2008

2mykids said:
Just beware that residual value, I would consider a Sedona if you have no intentions of selling it again after a couple of years.

Just wanted to mention carsdirect.com Edmunds is great to find the invoice, but their "True Market Value" number is useless. Use carsdirect to get an actual written price you can get that vehicle for in your area. Take that number to dealers and have em beat it. You shouldn't have a problem getting a dealer to beat the carsdirect price unless you live somewhere where there's no other dealer for hundreds of miles. Edmunds has message boards where you may be able to get market prices in your area as well.

My family has also had great success getting those 1 or 2 advertised specials in the local newspaper. Just show up on Friday or right before the dealer opens on Saturday. By law (at least in CA), they're required to actually have those vehicles and if they won't sell it to you at that price on Friday, if you show up at opening on Saturday, they can't say it was sold. My mom's Sienna was an advertised special. My parents actually went in ahead of time and told them they were interested in future specials. A little while later, the dealer was gonna put a couple of Siennas on sale and a salesperson called my mom to give her a heads up. She called back to say she was interested, and showed up Sat. morning. Easy sale and she even got to choose btw the two or three colors they had.

minismom · Oct 9, 2008

The Volvo XC90 also has a third row.

minismom · Oct 9, 2008

And maybe the Mercedes R or something? That must be sick expensive...

hillary116 · Oct 9, 2008

The Ford Freestyle (that you listed) is now called the Ford Taurus X. It has 3 rows. Around 28,000 for a 2008, I think. We have the Freestyle and love it! Thanks for making the list- my sister will find this very helpful :thumbsup:

TechnoGranola · Oct 9, 2008

minismom said:
The Volvo XC90 also has a third row.

minismom said:
And maybe the Mercedes R or something? That must be sick expensive...

The OP was only posting vehicles that were in the top 10% for safety on Informedforlife.org (based on IIHS and NHTSA ratings and other criteria) so that may be why they were not put on the list. For '09, it seems there isn't data for the MB R-class yet and the Volvo XC-90 is "medium risk". For '08, the R-class is "medium risk" and the XC-90 is in the best 6%, so it could be on the list for '08. I didn't check prior years as I was just doing a quick scan.

minismom · Oct 9, 2008

TechnoGranola said:
The OP was only posting vehicles that were in the top 10% for safety on Informedforlife.org (based on IIHS and NHTSA ratings and other criteria) so that may be why they were not put on the list. For '09, it seems there isn't data for the MB R-class yet and the Volvo XC-90 is "medium risk". For '08, the R-class is "medium risk" and the XC-90 is in the best 6%, so it could be on the list for '08. I didn't check prior years as I was just doing a quick scan.

Thanks! Was there any mention on why the xc90 went from best 6% to "medium"? I havent heard of any redisigns on the 09 model, but I guess I'm glad I have the 08. I remember from this thread that it met all critera for a safe 3rd row:
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=37243&highlight=thirdrow

TechnoGranola · Oct 9, 2008

minismom said:
Thanks! Was there any mention on why the xc90 went from best 6% to "medium"? I havent heard of any redisigns on the 09 model, but I guess I'm glad I have the 08. I remember from this thread that it met all critera for a safe 3rd row:
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=37243&highlight=thirdrow

Okay, I think I found out what's up. NHTSA has released crash data for the '09 models (I don't think they retested, it's the same vehicle in the pics as '08) but IIHS has not released theirs yet (currently the XC-90 model test go up to '08). So, on informedforlife.org, the '09 will have "average" scores put in for the IIHS test results, which lowers it's risk index. Once the IIHS scores are updated, the informedforlife.org risk score will go up (since I am assuming it will be "Good" ratings for everything again since the model hasn't changed for '09). I customized the Xc-90's results on informedforlife.org and edited the IIHS scores to be "Good" and the risk score is then 61.4 which puts the XC-90 into the "safest" group and in the top 8% (not sure what the official percent will be).

So, I believe the XC-90 should be added to the list!

I'll check out the R-class to see if it has any of the same issues.

TechnoGranola · Oct 9, 2008

Okay, I checked out the R-class and for '08, there is only crash test data from IIHS and not from NHTSA, so NHTSA was assumed "average". This may be accurate for side impact (since IIHS scores were "acceptable" and not "good"), but is likely low for frontal impact. So, my guess is the R-class will have a higher score as well. I wanted to customize it and put in more accurate data, but there wasn't any testing of prior model years by NHTSA so nothing really to make an educated guess on. I plugged in some realistic numbers and it would likely end up on the low end of "medium" risk (it currently sits at high) or at the high end of "safest". Either way, much better than it sits now.

Thats my only gripe with informedforlife.org, the "average" assumptions that aren't made obvious on the charts (ones where average values were used should have an indicator beside them or something). Or maybe if IIHS or NHTSA didn't test, their results should be left out entirely and not assumed as average, and then an indicator put beside that vehicle showing that here's the score with current data, but not all data is present so it might not be accurate.

minismom · Oct 10, 2008

Thanks so much for checking it out! It's very messed up that they used average when there was no testing, totally misleading...

ketchupqueen · Oct 10, 2008

Be aware that the 04-07 Siennas are in the top few percent (60.2 rating or so on IFL) if you make sure they have side curtain airbags (standard from 06, available as an option from 04) and VSC (available as an option 04-07.) So ask if they have any earlier Siennas on the lot with both those options and you may get a better price if you buy used! (We don't really believe in new cars and we're getting a Sienna next so I've just been researching it!)

DustysSweety · Nov 6, 2008

edited because
i just realized i was thinking of the Ford Freestar that is the van

An Aurora · Nov 6, 2008

Yep, Freestyle is a van, Freestar is an SUV.

Jeanum · Nov 6, 2008

Ford has some confusingly similar models names.

The Ford Freestyle is a crossover vehicle and it was renamed the Taurus X starting with the 2008 model year. The Ford Freestar is a discontinued minivan model and similar to the earlier Ford Windstar minivan.

An Aurora · Nov 6, 2008

Oops, don't mind me

Jeanum · Nov 6, 2008

No worries.

There's also the Ford Flex crossover vehicle and the Ford Edge crossover, but the Ford Edge lacks a third row.

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