Compliance Vent

[NorthernGrl]

Just venting about the restraints I currently have sitting in my closet, losing valuable lifespan time, while a friend goes out and buys the same brand new booster at full price.
The size difference between #2 and #3 are significant, and by the time he's ready for her Monterey (in 3 years), it'll maybe have a month left on it.
Such a waste!

 

[VanIsleMommy]

I hear ya!! I currently have two car seats sitting in storage collecting dust because I have no use for them but can't even give them away.

 

[NorthernGrl]

There should be a loophole for family or something. I have 2 highback turboboosters, a Monterey, a Nautilus and a Chase all collecting dust, and I have 2 nieces who's parents can not afford boosters.
I think I'll probably just give them to them anyway. I doubt they'd send me to jail over it, and it might be worth paying a fine to see the kids restrained instead of just in seatbelts!

 

[mum2two]

I haven't kept up with the Canadian laws, as I"m in the US but I gather a new law came into effect and it forbids you to resell/give seats for use that aren't current? I guess I don't understand, does everybody have to go out and get new seats that meet the new compliance rules, that would be cost prohibitive for some people, esp if they'd just bought seats before the new law.

If you were to give someone perfectly good seats, that aren't expired, how is it policed that they aren't the original owners?

 

[tiggercat]

I haven't kept up with the Canadian laws, as I"m in the US but I gather a new law came into effect and it forbids you to resell/give seats for use that aren't current? I guess I don't understand, does everybody have to go out and get new seats that meet the new compliance rules, that would be cost prohibitive for some people, esp if they'd just bought seats before the new law.

If you were to give someone perfectly good seats, that aren't expired, how is it policed that they aren't the original owners?

New regulations for child restraints came into effect Jan 1 2012. According to Health Canada's Canada Consumer Product Safety Act, child restraints and other products cannot be sold, given away or loaned if they don't meet current standards.
I too have "non-compliant" seats in my basement, and I can use them for my own children but I cannot legally loan or give them to anyone. Now if they happen to walk out the door and end up in someone's car, well what can I do?
The goal is to protect the consumer from buying unsafe baby items, and to get old unsafe seats out of circulation, but the reality is that the same seat can't be "safe" for my child, but unsafe for a same sized friend's child. It's a tough spot to be sometimes.

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[tiggercat]

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safedrivers-childsafety-faq-1131.htm
(For anyone looking for more information)

Do I need to replace my car seat?

It is not necessary to replace a child seat as a result of these new requirements. However, the child seat should be replaced if it was in a car that was involved in a collision. Even if your child wasn’t in the child seat when the collision occurred, the child seat could be damaged. Child seats have expiry dates - so make sure you replace yours when it expires. If the shell or materials on the seat are ripped or damaged, replace it.
The previous standards have provided a high level of safety for children for many years and will continue to provide protection throughout the useful life of a child restraint
It is important to note that if you own a car seat or booster seat made before January 1, 2012, under Health Canada's Canada Consumer Product Safety Act, you may not be able to advertise, sell, or give it (including lending) away because it may not meet the latest requirements set out by Health Canada.

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[NorthernGrl]

I too have "non-compliant" seats in my basement, and I can use them for my own children but I cannot legally loan or give them to anyone. Now if they happen to walk out the door and end up in someone's car, well what can I do?

LOL! That's what I'm thinking too. "What? How did I accidently install that Nautilus in DH's niece's Sunfire instead of in my Grand Caravan?!?? Oh well, it's in there now, might as well leave it be!"

 

[bubbaray]

If you were to give someone perfectly good seats, that aren't expired, how is it policed that they aren't the original owners?

It isn't.

 

[bubbaray]

This is exactly what ticks me off about this law. I have a bunch of seats collecting dust in my basement.

 

[VanIsleMommy]

Well ya that's the thing... If they don't care that sears and whatever other stores are selling noncompliant seats online and multiple reports are made but nobody does anything ...

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[Pixelated]

It's aggravating that it keeps SAFE seats from being passed on, but good in that it's kept some of the craigslist crap (some, lots still get through) from being sold. The being fined or reported part isn't what stops me -- it's the potential liability if something were to ever happen to that child in that seat and I knowingly and willingly passed on a non-compliant seat. I don't want to take on that personal liability.

 

[agave]

I'm not in Canada but I'm basically in the same situation with my crib. It isn't a drop side, never recalled, lightly used in good condition but it is technically illegal for me to sell it or even give it away. So my dog is using it in toddler bed mode.

 

[Pixelated]

So my dog is using it in toddler bed mode.

Bahaha!

 

[tam_shops]

I'm not a fan of the law, my opinion has always been if it's safe for me it should be safe to give sell, or be recalled/removed from the market...I get the reasons for it and like the safety improvement...at any rate, if family needed a seat I'd invite them for dinner and leave the seat on my front porch and tell them about the silly law and how your not-expired safe for you to use but illegal for you to give away seat was waiting for the garbage man and *hope* they got the hint and *stole* it from the front porch. But, that's just me.

As for the Monterey, call Diono, wasn't it a 2011 or was it older seat I bought back in January on clearance. I checked compliance and they assured me it was fine. So, worth checking on the exact date of compliance vs non-compliance if you have one sitting there you want to legally sell or something...

Graco is easier, model # 18 is compliant. Or the obvious 22#FF for the GN.

tam

 

[NorthernGrl]

The Nautilus and Monterey both have 2010 DOMs so, it might be too far back. I might call though. The Turbos are worth saving, they were bought in 2011 and have 10 year expiries, so they'll last for my 3 y/o anyway.

 

[amyd]

I have a 2010 Nautilus with a model # starting with 18.

 

[tiggercat]

I have a 2010 Nautilus with a model # starting with 18.

What is the lower limit for FF?

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[amyd]

What is the lower limit for FF?

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22lbs

 

[tam_shops]

Interesting, sure my summer made GN had 20#FF, but no idea on the start number, will have to see if I have the manual for it...perhaps it started late 2010. Easy enough for parents to check.

I'd call on the Monterey. Were there changes from 2010 to 2011? If so less chance, if not, more chance...

tam

 

[Keeks64]

I have a 2010 Nautilus with a model # starting with 18.

Ohhh I should check mine! I think I did infact I'm sure I did but I'd be super happy if I missed that it was compliant lol

It's sitting collecting dust so I would love to pass it on

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