CMVSS 213 changes and what they mean

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I am wondering where you got this information from? Would you be able to cite your source so that other Moms and Moms-to-be can further research our own provinces and the laws that are enforced.

Thanks.


There seems to be a high level of confusion surrounding the changes in legislation, so I wanted to have a thread based solely on the changes and what it means to both parents and techs.

First, here's a little background knowledge about laws and standards and how they fit in in terms of federal, provincial, and what roles each type of law plays including who is responsible for enforcement. I am not quoting anything word for word here, my goal is to try and put this in to easy to understand terms so that when we're talking with parents we can give them the simplest and most easy to understand picture. :thumbsup:

Law:

Federal:
The federal government writes the safety standards for children’s restraint systems. The provincial/territorial governments, under their Highway traffic Acts, write the legislation for usage. The federal government does not order the provinces to do so, it is up to the provinces to extract what they wish to enforce from the federal laws. For example, even though booster seat regulations have been on the federal roles for thirty years, not all provinces have chosen to enforce their use.

So basically, when it comes to enforcement, only the province is responsible.

Federal law does break down their regulations by forward facing, rear facing, booster seats, and disabled persons’ seats (including infants with special needs). They have minimum requirements for each of these types of seats, but it is up to the provinces to decide if they will accept the minimum recommendations, or create their own.

Provincial:
Provinces determine the legislation surrounding the transport of children based on the minimum requirements set federally. Because each province is responsible for their own traffic safety act, each province has different rules and the fines and/or demerits vary by province.


The change to standards:

CMVSS 213, 213.1, and 213.2 all underwent changes. To clarify before going further:

CMVSS 213 - Child restraint systems
CMVSS 213.1 - Infant restraint systems
CMVSS 213.2 - Booster Seats

The changes that were made to CMVSS affect what regulations a child restraint manufacturer must comply with.

In order for a seat to be sold in Canada, it must have a National Safety Mark. (NSM) The NSM is the maple leaf sticker on the restraint. It must bear the number assigned to the company in the center of the sticker, and then the appropriate sections of CMVSS that the seat is compliant with (and thus how it is able to be used.) By affixing the NSM, the company is certifying that the seat with the applicable CMVSS.

NEW Regulations:

As of January 1, 2011, all new seats being imported to Canada will have to comply with the new legislation.

The part which has been discussed the most on the board and what I will focus on here is the change made to how child restraint systems are described.

CMVSS 213 - child restraint systems: As of January 1, 2011, child restraint systems will be defined as systems for use by children between 22 and 65lbs AND who are able to walk unassisted.

CMVSS 213.1 – the definition of an infant is now an individual less than 22 pounds and unable to walk unassisted.

There have also been changes made to the crash test bench assembly, the family of crash test dummies being used, and booster seats will now be required to pass dynamic testing as well. Perhaps most notably, the Canadian crash test bench will have a lap/shoulder belt assembly in the center seating position, and CMVSS 213 and 213.1 seats will have to pass testing with UAS, lap only, and lap/shoulder belts. (One at a time, not all at the same time.)

Requirements such as top tethering being mandatory will not change, and the requirement that has resulted in Canadian seats having more energy absorbing material in the head area - compression/deflection testing, remains as well.

So what's the bottom line?

Before I edited the post, this was what I originally said regarding seats on store shelves January 1st, 2011. What I initially said is actually incorrect and I am leaving the wording here only so that there is a point of reference as to what I've changed.


I have gotten some clarification on this comment, and according to the Hazardous Products Act, the seats on the shelf must meet the current standrds. Therefore, they will all be removed by Health Canada. NOW - and this is important. The seats in the market place will be removed, but this does not mean that the seats parents have already purchased are being recalled. I'm going to ask for some further clarification on this piece of the puzzle because it raises a couple interesting questions for me.

Any seats imported starting January 1, 2011 will have to comply with the new standards.

One of the things I've heard and read is that the new law taking effect in January has the minimums of 22lbs and walking unassisted to ff. This isn't completely accurate - remember that provinces are responsible for the enforcement of the legislation surrounding the use of child restraints. The changes taking effect in January are to the CMVSS regulations - which manufacturers are required to follow.

The change is not a federal law stating that a child must be 22lbs and walking unassisted to ff - the change is to the regulations that manufacturers are required to meet. And while this may seem like a very small difference, it is important because federal law doesn't tell parents what is or isn't a legal way to transport their children, nor is it the legislation referred to when issuing tickets - provincial law is.

So what is the most accurate and simple way to talk to parents about the minimum requirements to ff?

Manufacturers are responsible for setting the minimums and limits may vary from model to model. In general, children need to be 22lbs, 1yr old, and walking unassisted before they can ff. (If the manufacturer states a minimum age anyways.)

That's really all there is to the basic bottom line. Leave the law out of it unless you know it inside out. It is sometimes easier and gives a greater air of authority to say "the law says" - but the truth is, unless your provincial law states 22lbs, 1yr old, and walking unassisted - then that's not what your law says.

Seats with 20lb minimum ff'ing limits will be out there that don't expire until 2018. With the exception of provinces out there who have a 22lb minimum in their law, it will remain legal for parents to ff a 20lb child in a 20lb ff'ing minimum seat if the child also meets the height and possible age requirements of the seat.

It is very important to not over-emphasize law, rather reasons should be what motivate a parent to follow best practice. We'd all love to see kids rf'ing longer, but not at the expense of giving out inaccurate information, or information designed to be interpreted a certain way.

All provinces have proper use, so that will mean that parents buying new seats with 22lb minimum ff'ing limits won't be able to ff prior to 22lbs - but 20lb minimum seats are going to be around for awhile even if it's just because a parent has a seat they used with their first child. This is why it is so important to explain things in a way that the parent understands - talk to them about the reason for something without scare tactics, but in language they can understand.

I'm a firm believer that almost all parents want to do what is best for their children given the chance - so take the chance and use it to educate - don't lean on the law unless you have to, and only then do it if you're reflecting the law accurately. Otherwise, reflect the minimums of the seat the child is in.

The fact is, more and more kids are 22lbs before a year anyways, and lots of kids are walking unassisted before their first birthday. So parents still need to understand the "why." They still need to make the choice to keep rf'ing beyond the minimums because they understand it is the best way to transport a young child and they want to protect their child as much as possible.

There is no ground lost in accurately reflecting that weight limits vary by models. And there is nothing wrong with stating that TC felt that 22lbs and walking unassisted was important enough to change the legislation surrounding the regulations that carseat manufacturers have to meet, and to then recommend that they rear-face to 22lbs even if they have a seat that allows ff'ing at the minimum of 20lbs. (Provided that the child restraint allows rf'ing to 22lbs or greater - never exceed any weight limit given by the manufacturer.) But unless your provincial law states 22lb minimum to ff, you cannot say that the new law requires 22lbs.

Yes, the transition period is confusing to techs - and it has to be confusing to parents as well if they're aware of it... but bottom line isn't really all that much different. And regardless, unless provincial law states 22lb minimum to ff, you can NEVER tell a parent it is illegal to ff a 20lb child in a 20lb minimum seat if the other requirements are met.

I hope that this clears things up a little bit. If not - ask questions please. I've been meaning to start this thread for awhile and haven't found time until now. :thumbsup:
 
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tam_shops

New member
Does anyone know if any of the Provinces have 22#FF rules?

Does this mean that older seats w/ 20#FF labels might get issued new stickers?

tam
 

chay

New member
snowbird25ca is summarizing the changes that Transport Canada published -
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/.../reg5-eng.html
http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/20...ors90-eng.html

along with (I'm assuming) bits and pieces from presentations that TC has been doing for techs and discussions with other Techs (and Instructors) about what it all means.

Provincial laws are summarized here
http://www.safekidscanada.ca/Professionals/Advocacy/Documents/26794-BoosterSeatLegislationChart.pdf

You won't see older seats getting new stickers. This all applies to new seats. Whatever is out there is still good until it expires and they don't go back and re-sticker. However, while you could FF your 20lbs kid in a 20lbs seat in say Ontario you couldn't in Nova Scotia (as one example) because provincial law is what the police go by. Provincial laws are slow to change - just look at some of the wonderful examples in the above chart.
 

tam_shops

New member
I didn't think they'd issue new stickers, but do recall when SKJP did it for the RF change in the US...I just sold my spare MA b/c of it, was planning on waiting until next year to do it but why wait...

Will read the FF minimums for the Provinces, curious...thanks!

tam
 

snowbird25ca

Moderator - CPST Instructor
Unregistered - Chay summed it up pretty clearly.

I'm a CRST Instructor Trainer and had direct contact with TC while putting together the information. It was based on national curriculum, the changes in the regulations, and on a verbal discussion with a TC employee who works directly with child restraints.

All of the information should be able to be easily confirmed through reading the links posted by Chay, combined with some research about the federal and provincial roles and then digging up the highway traffic act for the province you live in.

If you live in Alberta, the law is that all children under 40lbs or under 6yrs old must be properly restrained in a child restraint that is properly installed and appropriate for the child.

Here is a quick summary:
http://www.albertaseatbelts.ca/law.php

Seat Belts - In Alberta, the law requires wearing a seatbelt and it is the driver's responsibility to ensure that all passengers under the age of 16 years are properly restrained in the vehicle. If the passengers are not properly restrained, the driver may receive a seat belt fine. The fine for not wearing a seatbelt is $115.

The driver is responsible for ensuring children who weigh less that 18 kg (40 lbs.) are properly restrained in an approved child safety seat that has been properly installed.

As well, the Act specifies that you shall not remove a seat belt assembly, or render it partly or wholly inoperative. You are also not permitted by law to reduce the effectiveness of a seat belt assembly if the motor vehicle was equipped with the seat belt assembly at the time it was manufactured.
Both the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Act and the Provincial Traffic Safety Act outline regulations for seat belt use.

Click here for more about Seat Belts for older kids

Child Safety Seats - According to Alberta law, any child who is under the age of six years and whose weight does not exceed 18 kgs (40 lb.) must be properly restrained in a child safety seat according to the manufacturer's instructions. The child safety seat must be installed in the vehicle according to both the vehicle manufacturer's and child safety seat manufacturer's instructions. Child safety seats used in Canada must have a label on them stating that the seat meets Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 213.

Traffic Safety Act - Vehicle Equipment and Regulation Section 78(2)(a) (b)

Click here for more about Child Safety Seats

Specifically from the standards - and it looks like the numbers have changed since the original info above was written: (this is from queen's press, can't get a more official source than this) You'll need to scroll way down until you reach part 5 - Occupant Restraint Systems.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?page=2009_122.cfm&leg_type=Regs&isbncln=9780779743193&display=html
Definitions
80 In sections 81 to 83,
(a) “child” means a child under 6 years old;
(b) “child restraint system” means a device that
(i) is installed by the manufacturer of a vehicle at the time of manufacture or is designed to be installed in the vehicle from time to time,
(ii) is capable of restraining the movement of a child in order to prevent or mitigate injury to the child, and
(iii) meets the standards prescribed under the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada) and the regulations under that Act;​

and then

Occupant restraint system
81 The Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada) and the regulations under that Act are adopted and apply to seat belt assemblies, child restraint systems and other components of an occupant restraint system in motor vehicles.
Seat belts required
82(1) A person shall not drive or operate a motor vehicle in which a child who weighs 18 kilograms or less is a passenger unless
(a) the motor vehicle is equipped with a child restraint system,
(b) the child restraint system is properly installed, and
(c) the child is properly secured in the child restraint system.​

I hope that helps. As you can see from the wording, under 40lbs or under 6yrs old have to be in a child restraint that meets the standards prescribed by Canada - ie has to be a CMVSS certified seat, it has to be properly installed, and the child has to be properly secured in the child restraint system.



There is no way I see this happening :)

Yep, I agree 100%. There will not be any re-stickering of seats meeting the "current" standards.
 

Pixels

New member
I didn't think they'd issue new stickers, but do recall when SKJP did it for the RF change in the US...I just sold my spare MA b/c of it, was planning on waiting until next year to do it but why wait...

Will read the FF minimums for the Provinces, curious...thanks!

tam

SKJP did not issue any new stickers for the retroactive weight change in the US. All they issued was a formal statement on company letterhead, on their website.

Several people have had their stickers fall off their seats, and SKJP has been giving new stickers to them. My stickers have fallen off, but I haven't bothered getting new ones yet. I don't know what the replacement stickers say for those, like me, who have seats originally stickered 35 but retroactively made 40.
 

tam_shops

New member
Chay, thanks that was interesting to read! Was surprised to see that some of the Provinces already adopted the 22#RF rules! Was happy to see BC updated in 2008, no idea when the other Provinces did, but hoping we will update again...Also impressed to see that some of the Provinces have 50# car seat rules, though suspect that a booster would do.

Provincial laws are summarized here


tam
 

snowbird25ca

Moderator - CPST Instructor
Chay, thanks that was interesting to read! Was surprised to see that some of the Provinces already adopted the 22#RF rules! Was happy to see BC updated in 2008, no idea when the other Provinces did, but hoping we will update again...Also impressed to see that some of the Provinces have 50# car seat rules, though suspect that a booster would do.

Provincial laws are summarized here


tam

The link didn't work but if it's the one I was looking at yesterday it hasn't been updated since 2008. It gives the basics but I know in the case of AB you would completely miss the proper use part of the law based on the chart, and I think some legislation has passed since the chart.

It's a starting point anyways.
 
U

Unregistered

Guest
Hey everyone,

I am doing research in this area and need a copy of the CMVSS 213 standard.

Anyone know where or how I could get a download of it?
 

hipmaman

Moderator - CPST Instructor
Hey everyone,

I am doing research in this area and need a copy of the CMVSS 213 standard.

Anyone know where or how I could get a download of it?

You should be able to find it by navigating the Transport Canada website. Don't have my favourites on this computer.
 

mommycat

Well-known member
So, all the phenomenal sales we have had lately are due to this, yes? Was there a grace period allowed so that the seats could still be on shelves after Jan. 1, 2011?

Something I have been thinking about reading this - if an organization has program seats to give away and they still have the "old" seats after the new regs kick in, are they allowed to make those seats available to parents in need? If the parents had bought them themselves they would obvioulsy be ok but since the organization is passing on the ownership to the parents after the fact...Is it illegal for the seats to be handed out?
 

sparkyd

Active member
Hey everyone,

I am doing research in this area and need a copy of the CMVSS 213 standard.

Anyone know where or how I could get a download of it?

http://www.seatsforkidscanada.com/regulations.html

There was an extension. The new standards come into effect Jan 1, 2012.

Just a technical clarification on this point; the new standards are in effect, but the seat manufacturer's have been given until Jan 1, 2012 to comply. We should see seats that meet the new standard on the market soon, if there aren't any already.

There is a press release about the extension here: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/mediaroom/releases-2010-h138e-6190.htm

and an FAQ here: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safedrivers-childsafety-faq-1131.htm

It's kind of annoying that they don't link to the actual regulations anywhere in there.
 
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mommycat

Well-known member
Something I have been thinking about reading this - if an organization has program seats to give away and they still have the "old" seats after the new regs kick in, are they allowed to make those seats available to parents in need? If the parents had bought them themselves they would obvioulsy be ok but since the organization is passing on the ownership to the parents after the fact...Is it illegal for the seats to be handed out?
This, but add a year and make it 2012. Still curious.
 
U

Unregistered

Guest
Can someone clarify for me, can I now legally sell my second hand car seats (not expired, never in an accident, about 1 year old MyRide, that was used less than a dozen times), or under these new regulations do I need to just send this car seat to the dump? I am confused. Thanks
 

snowbird25ca

Moderator - CPST Instructor
Can someone clarify for me, can I now legally sell my second hand car seats (not expired, never in an accident, about 1 year old MyRide, that was used less than a dozen times), or under these new regulations do I need to just send this car seat to the dump? I am confused. Thanks

This year you definitely can. I'm not sure about come next year.
 

Jewels

Senior Community Member
FAQ
Are there any car seats on the market now that comply with these new regulations? What brands?

Car seats available on the Canadian market must meet all applicable safety standards and must be fully certified by the manufacturer/importer. Subsequent inspection and testing by Transport Canada provides additional assurance of product compliance. It’s important to note that to enhance a child’s safety, the car seat must be appropriately installed and the child correctly restrained in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions.

* Any seat with a manufacturing date of January 1, 2012 or later will meet the new requirements.
* For car seats manufactured prior to January 1, 2012, parents and caregivers should contact the manufacturer directly to find out whether or not a specific model is compliant with the new regulations.
So has anyone called about their seats to see if they comply with the new regulations? I'm curious to know if my new MA65 (DOM 12/2011) and Parkway SGL (DOM 9/2011) comply??? Side note I was shocked the SGL had such a old DOM since it just became available not that long ago.
 

mam521

New member
So has anyone called about their seats to see if they comply with the new regulations? I'm curious to know if my new MA65 (DOM 12/2011) and Parkway SGL (DOM 9/2011) comply??? Side note I was shocked the SGL had such a old DOM since it just became available not that long ago.

My My Ride (DOM 11/2010)'s manual states 22lbs and walking unassisted - I was surprised to be honest. Not sure if that counts...
 

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