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    Advocate or Rainier? (Advocate G4 and Click Tight comparision pics post 13)

    I am undecided between these two seats (The britax Advocate G4 or the Diono Rainier). I gave them both a try at Buy Buy Baby today, and I like and dislike different things on each seat. My ultimate goal is to rear-face to around 4 years old. Any advice on which seat might be a better fit for us? Have an opinion on which is better/lasts longer/etc. I don't have to worry about space in my vehicle. My guy is 15 months and average sized. Here he is in both seats (I realize the headrest on the Diono is not adjusted correctly, and the straps also needed to go up one more slot).





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    Re: Advocate or Rainier?

    If you want to rear-face to around 4, I don't think the G4 Britax seats are going to work well for you. Your child looks decently tall in the seat, and once his head is within 1" of the top of the *shell* (not the movable head rest) he will have to turn forward facing.

    If you weren't impressed with either of these seats, have you taken a look at the new Britax Advocate Click-Tight? It has a lot more height capacity and its features are quite different. Maybe that would be the right seat for you.
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    Re: Advocate or Rainier?

    Thanks. How much more height does the click tight offer? I am leaning towards the Rainier right now. It's on sale and that makes it a good deal less than the newer version of the advocate.

    Are the pads on the Diono optional rear-facing like the britax seats, or are they required?
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    Re: Advocate or Rainier?

    I am not sure of the exact numbers, but whereas the older Advocate is one of the shorter (certainly not the shortest) rear-facing convertibles in its class, the ClickTight Advocate is pretty much the tallest now. And forward-facing, it has an approximately 19" harness height so it should last pretty much every kid until booster age.

    The Rainier is also a great seat, but you have to be happy with the seat you have. Which one will last longer for rear-facing really depends on whether you need more height capacity (Advocate ClickTight) or weight capacity (Rainier). The Advocate CT will almost definitely last longer forward facing, since very few kids will still fit in a Rainier when they reach 65 lbs but most children will make it to that weight in the Advocate CT.

    Personally, I love the Diono seats, but not everyone does. It's really true that there's no "right" seat for everyone.

    You might want to visit our Shopping forums for some help locating good sales/deals on the seat you ultimately decide you want.
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    Re: Advocate or Rainier?

    Thank you. That was helpful. Is the Advocate CT going to be much taller than the Boulevard CT?
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    Re: Advocate or Rainier?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyLittleTyke View Post
    Thank you. That was helpful. Is the Advocate CT going to be much taller than the Boulevard CT?
    They are the same.

    The Marathon CT is not quite as tall, however.
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    Re: Advocate or Rainier?

    thx. Last question - how much taller is the click tight over the G4 model?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyLittleTyke View Post
    Thanks. How much more height does the click tight offer? I am leaning towards the Rainier right now. It's on sale and that makes it a good deal less than the newer version of the advocate. Are the pads on the Diono optional rear-facing like the britax seats, or are they required?
    I emailed britax this today about the britax G3 advocate and the new click tight advocate. I will post back what they reply. If the rear facing height is higher in the new advocate I will sell the one I have & get a new advocate.

    We have a G3 britax advocate and it is nice but don't think it will get dd to rear face until age 4. She is 27months (usually I just say 2 but feel months are important here) and rear facing and in the 90%. I could post a pic of her in it tomorrow. She does still have room to grow.

    I read on another thread that had a study posted about side impact ratings and the britax advocate beat the radian and I am thinking it is because the side walls are deeper and thicker on the advocate. Since side impact crashes are the most deadly I wanted the most car seat around my child's head. So that is why I chose advocate.
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    Re: Advocate or Rainier?

    Awesome! I am going to go back to BBB tomorrow and take a look at the advocate CT in the store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyLittleTyke View Post
    Awesome! I am going to go back to BBB tomorrow and take a look at the advocate CT in the store.
    Cool be sure to post a pic! You little baby is so cute!!
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    So britax got back to me and I will post their reply next. I guess I have the G4 model not the G3 model because based off of their email the G3 you can only rear face to 20lbs. Is this right does anyone know? I feel like that might not be true.

    Here is their email

    "All of our seats meet or exceed federal standards. The ClickTight installation technology does improve the ease of installation, which helps to ensure a tight installation each and every time.

    The RF seated height for BLVD & ADV CT is about 28” vs 24” on G3/G4 and the MAR CT is about 26” vs 24” on G3/G4. ADVOCATE G4 INFORMATION: ADVOCATE

    G3 INFORMATION:

    I JUST EDITED THIS TO INCLUDE THE IMAGES THE BRITAX LADY GAVE ME
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    Quote Originally Posted by seb3244 View Post
    So britax got back to me and I will post their reply next. I guess I have the G4 model not the G3 model because based off of their email the G3 you can only rear face to 20lbs. Is this right does anyone know? I feel like that might not be true.
    Here is their email

    "All of our seats meet or exceed federal standards. The ClickTight installation technology does improve the ease of installation, which helps to ensure a tight installation each and every time. The RF seated height for BLVD & ADV CT is about 28” vs 24” on G3/G4 and the MAR CT is about 26” vs 24” on G3/G4.

    ADVOCATE G3 INFORMATION:

    ADVOCATE G4 INFORMATION:

    Well their product tables aren't showing up when I copy and paste I will try something else soon so I can get them to show up
    The G3s RF to 40 pounds, not 20.

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    Re: Advocate or Rainier?

    I am not seeing how the Advocate Click Tight is any taller than the G4. Here they are side by side today, pics taken this morning at Buy Buy Baby. Unless Britax now allows you to rearface to the height of the headrest and not the seat, I am failing to see how it is going to give a child any more rearfacing height.

    Click tight on the left, G4 of the right. The G4 looks taller due to the base.




    It does look taller with the headrest extended.


    15 month old in G4


    15 month old in click tight.
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    Yes, you get to go to 1" from the fully extended headrest, not the shell.
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    Re: Advocate or Rainier? (Advocate G4 and Click Tight comparision pics post 13)

    Excellent! Thanks. That makes a huge difference and makes the seat worth the extra $. Leaning towards the Advocate Click Tight now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nataliem257 View Post
    The G3s RF to 40 pounds, not 20.
    I know this the lady the emailed me from britax does not apparently and she confused me lol
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    That rear-facing label is poorly worded, federally mandated language. It means that you can use it ONLY in the rear-facing position for kids under 20 lbs, but it doesn't mean you can't use it beyond 20 lbs. if allowed. Basically saying: If you kid is under 20 lbs, you MUST use it RF, no forward-facing for kids under 20 lbs.

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    Re: Advocate or Rainier? (Advocate G4 and Click Tight comparision pics post 13)

    Thanks everyone for your help. I took advantage of Britax's current sale and ordered an Advocate ClickTIght in Tahoe (love the blue).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyLittleTyke View Post
    Thanks everyone for your help. I took advantage of Britax's current sale and ordered an Advocate ClickTIght in Tahoe (love the blue).
    cool!!
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    Re: Advocate or Rainier? (Advocate G4 and Click Tight comparision pics post 13)

    Quote Originally Posted by jwilliams View Post
    Yes, you get to go to 1" from the fully extended headrest, not the shell.
    Does that apply to the G4 also?

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