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A while back I book marked a very helpful discussion about the Sienna vs Odyssey. Since then our computer crashed. :-/ What I am specificially looking for is the break down of top tether anchor options for each year. (It seems like they switch in 2011- that Toyota has a bunch before '11 and Odyssey has a bunch after '11?) Does anyone know off the top of their heads which thread I am talking about? It was posted for someone else to refer to when they were asking about the same thing. We have baby 5 due in January and our current mini van is hobbling along, so we're looking for something with eight seats. From what we've seen so far, we're leaning towards an older Sienna. We don't like that you have to buy the top model to get eight seats in the Odyssey, and the jump seat in the older Siennas acutally looks like someone could sit in it somewhat comfortably. Our kids are 7, 6, 4, 18 mo, and due in January. We currently have the older kids in Britax Frontiers, the ones with the side impact wings. The two of them take up the entire back row. We have two Radian XTs, a Complete Air, and the baby will be in a Britax Chaperone. We're assuming it would work best to keep the Frontiers in the back row for the 6 and 4 year old, put the seven year old in a regular booster (can we do that?) in the jump seat, and then have the 4 year old in one of the Radians out board, with the baby out board behind the driver in the Chaperone. Any suggestions as to which year span of which vehicle would work best with our kids and car seats? Or even if you could just post a thread to a similar question, that would be great! Thank you so much!