Question my hypothetical scenario, for BabyKaykes. (which bad option would you choose?)

which seat?

  • Frontier

    Votes: 7 43.8%
  • Nautilus

    Votes: 8 50.0%
  • wait, what? why not just use booster mode?

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • A Kiddy shield booster drops from the sky........

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters


Senior Community Member
Here is a hypothetical that I almost had to actually turn into a real life situation.
Saturday morning, I drove my daughter into the next state, to go to grammas house for a week. We got up early, i drove her there, and I should have been able to make it back by 12:30, as DH had to work at 1pm. Him not going to work is...absolutely NOT an option, at all. His corpse would be required to show up ;)

So anyway..on the way home...the toll road (turnpike) was basically shut down due to an ugly crash. There was no way off, it's a limited access toll road, exits are generally 20+ miles apart. I mean, I suppose if you have a vehicle that could traverse the giant median/gorge, maybe, but my Kia sedan? not so much :D

So I am sitting there, and as time stretches on....I start to FREAK. If it got too late, DH would need to, at the very least, take ds to work with him(and make an underling watch him lol), or maybe, if he could have contacted the sittter, have arranged to take ds over there, but sitter doesn't drive, so dh would have had to drive DS somewhere either way..his job or the sitters.

Dilemma 1. While I have 2 extra convertibles that ds fits into, both were loaned out. The only "extra" seats that were at home on the porch available for dh, were a nauti and a frontier.
Ds is 2.5 and RFing.

So...accepting DS was going to have to be FFing was dilemma 1.

Dilemma 2. Dh can't install seats. At all. I don't know why. He is a wonderful man, a great husband, a good provider for our family, mature, responsible, intelligent!!, and beyond that, has a firm understanding of things like angle, direction, leverage, pressure, etc. But yet. The man can not install a carseat for anything. It's mindboggling. If I had an explanation, I would share it. But I don't. So here's the dilemma.

Nauti was set up for dd, on the top slots. While i realize that technically, "at or above" is okay for FFing, we're talking literally over the kids head here. So to use the nauti, he REALLY would have needed to move the straps. So I would have had to have tried to talk him through the "make sure you route it over the red rollers" thing.
The frontier has the much easier pull up-down adjustment, so it would have been much easier to adjust the height.
However...install wise...the nauti will go in fairly easily, but his seats are wonky non-compressible, so it takes a lot of maneuvering and checking to get the seat it without an inch of movement...and very easy to get it in UNacceptably.
The frontier - dear god..I could not even imagine how i would talk him through a LBP install over the phone, plus, it is REALLY takes every single millimeter of belt to make it work.....but on the plus side, I know that IF he did get it to work, it would be SOLID, since once you get it - miraculously - to click's tight as all get out.

So...I was trying to figure out WHICH scenario was better? nauti, or frontier?
With the nauti, strap height was a serious issue, but the install wasn't horribly diffficult, except there was a big chance it would be done unacceptably loose.
With the frontier, the height adjustment would have been easy, but the install would have been a nightmare, although if it did work, it would be certain to be solid.

For the record, ds is, just barely 25 pounds, maybe, if clothed with heavy shoes on, and 2 years 8 months. He fits nicely into both seats, and loves to play with them on the porch, lol.

The extra kicker? By the time I am realizing all this, and could have called dh to have woken him and since he still would have had to do all his normal personal hygiene stuff, albeit rushed, the most amount of time that could have really been allotted for all this was maybe 20-30 minutes.

So anyway...which seat?
Someone else coming to get them wasn't an option. Dh not going to work wouildn't have been an option. If frustration levels got too high, or time got too short, the temptation would have been to just put DS in one of them used as a booster, so dh did not miss work. :eek:


New member
Spend 10-15 minutes on the Frontier. Easy harness adjustment, and if he can get it in, you know it's done right. If he can't get it in in that amount of time, switch to Nautilus.


New member
I would probably go with the nauti, simply because there is one possible belt path and the idea of walking someone thru lbp over the phone unnerves me.
I would have freaked out. I never let anyone else install seats my kids ride in and having to do it over the phone would have really upset me.


Carseat Crankypants
First, I understand. I have a husband who (among other things) installs and repairs computer hardware and is generally very good with his hands, but also cannot install or adjust a carseat.

Assuming those are the only two options, Nauti, chest clip high, straps tight, install tight.


Moderator - CPS Technician
Called someone from here to go rescue DH?

Baring that, Frontier and have him watch the LBP install video.


New member
Yes, they do. And yes, I'm aware of his age and size. Given what I know of the situation, for *my* child or a child for whom I was responsible for keeping safe, I would use it as a booster and lock the belt. Most likely the GN, though, if the lap belt fit.


New member
Oooohhh this is a good one Jess, because my husband is the exact same way.

This is what he said about the situation:

"I would just install and tighten the easiest car seat as much as I could so it doesn't move. If I have time to mess with the tether I would, otherwise I would leave it."

I told him I would leave the straps on the Nauti the way they are, and make sure the harness is tight (which he knows that anyways.) The top tether wouldn't be a huge concern to me.

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