Infant seat install no base?

[Nimommyof2]

Has anyone seen an infant seat that when installed without the base you wrap the shoulder part behind the infant seat? My friend is asking about it, I think if I am understanding her Edie bauer seat says to do that.

 

[Patriot201]

There are some seats that allow/instruct you to do that, but I have never heard that an Eddie Bauer seat has the European routing.

Do you know which model it is?

 

[Patriot201]

Wait... I just did some brief research. The Safety First Designer 22 allowed European routing, and since Eddie Bauer and Safety First are both Dorel, it is possible there was/is an Eddie Bauer seat that also allows it.

Off to research more...

 

[Patriot201]

Got it! Eddie Bauer Endeavor.

 

[Nimommyof2]

Okay thanks. I think she was concerned it wasn't safe but obviously there are a few seats that do it.

 

[Pixelated]

Yes - most (all?) Designer 22s allow that 'Euro' routing in Canada. High incompatibility rate with seat belts that aren't long enough. I've always had another way to install it so I've never had to investigate if they allow a more traditional routing if that's the case.

 

[ketchupqueen]

Yep! I believe it is "highly recommended" by the Designer/its clones. It's recommended if the belt is long enough by the Aton. It's required by the Porsche Baby Seat LATCH.

I love it on my Aton- it gives a solid install really quickly when the belt is long enough. So much easier than the typical baseless install.

 

[tiggercat]

Yes - most (all?) Designer 22s allow that 'Euro' routing in Canada. High incompatibility rate with seat belts that aren't long enough. I've always had another way to install it so I've never had to investigate if they allow a more traditional routing if that's the case.

Yes, if the belt is too short you can route it in the traditional way.
I like the euro routing, but every parent who I've demonstrated it to has decided not to install baseless, so I guess it is a bit intimidating.

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[Pixelated]

Yes, if the belt is too short you can route it in the traditional way.
I like the euro routing, but every parent who I've demonstrated it to has decided not to install baseless, so I guess it is a bit intimidating.

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Does it indicate that in the manual? I've usually not had a manual and going by the stickers on the side it doesn't give that option.

Usually it's an older seat so subject to both the base separation issue AND quite possibly the handle separation issue. Throw in a too-short seat belt and the parents are nearly crying by the end

 

[tiggercat]

Does it indicate that in the manual? I've usually not had a manual and going by the stickers on the side it doesn't give that option.

Usually it's an older seat so subject to both the base separation issue AND quite possibly the handle separation issue. Throw in a too-short seat belt and the parents are nearly crying by the end

I do believe it says in the manual, but I don't think I have one in my collection to check for you. I'll take a look (can't sleep anyway!).

No luck, that's one seat I don't have. I'll look at the next one I see

Also, it is really annoying that Dorel doesn't have the manual online. Get with the program, people!


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[canadiangie]

I have an old Designer 22 manual, should I look?

It's lovely how it shows the lap portion routed behind the seat, with the shoulder portion routed through the belt guides. Slip of the mouse by the graphic designer, I guess. Years ago I brought it up as a possible issue, but was told parents wouldn't likely notice the oversight.

Anyhoo, shall I check?

Eta: wording says to pull on shoulder belt to tighten, and if shoulder belt is long enough secure it behind the shell through the shoulder belt guides on back of seat (two little lips).

The pictures show an option to not do euro belt routing, but instead have the shoulder belt threaded under both belt guides on the CR.

The pictures are really crappy.

It's an 06 manual.

 

[Pixelated]

I have an old Designer 22 manual, should I look?

It's lovely how it shows the lap portion routed behind the seat, with the shoulder portion routed through the belt guides. Slip of the mouse by the graphic designer, I guess. Years ago I brought it up as a possible issue, but was told parents wouldn't likely notice the oversight. (?!)

Anyhoo, shall I check?

Yes please!

 

[Nimommyof2]

Are there any Graco seats that allow this?

 

[canadiangie]

Are there any Graco seats that allow this?

Not on this side of the pond, nope.

 

[LittlePeanut]

My Designer 22 from 2004/5 allowed the euro routing. I recall my sister doing it for her vehicle when they were told of the possible base/seat separation issue. She's not super car seat savvy but she found it really simple to do (even though she didn't know to lock the belt).

 

[BarbieWD]

My Designer 22 (2006 DOM) allowed both routes.... I do believe only one was on the stickers though... but the manual showed both... I think... It was a long time ago in terms of our car seats! lol I remember wrestling in my Gramma's car trying to do the euro(?) route then pulled out the manual and did the straight across route.