firemomof3
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While I totally agree on the fabric, on the other hand, the Oobr doesn't have harnesses and harness slots and stuff to hide bits of vomit...
Ahh, very good point. Hopefully they will have thought of that
While I totally agree on the fabric, on the other hand, the Oobr doesn't have harnesses and harness slots and stuff to hide bits of vomit...
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Sorry that it took me so long to get an answer for you on Canada. Here goes:
1) Rear-tethering (Australian method, i.e. tethering back to the top tether) is permitted under the Canadian standard. Rear-tethering to front seat or to floor is NOT permitted under the Canadian standard
2) There is a partial floor on the test bench, but rear-facing child seats may only be secured to the vehicle by means of seat belts, lower connector systems, and tether straps (Australian method explained in #1) without using any other means of attachment. So, you can't use a support leg to test to a higher weight.
You technically can test rear-facing to a higher weight limit in Canada. But, you need to pass all of the necessary tests with a 6YO ATD (injury criteria, new rebound limit, the 70 degree rule, centreline of head below top of child seat, etc.), making it EXTREMELY difficult to go beyond 40 lbs and pass without a support leg. In fact, anything over 40 lbs in Canada requires testing with a 6YO ATD, which is the reason why we have 40 lb RF weight limits in Canada.
Hope this helps clarify things.
So does this mean that your RF weight limit is higher in the U.S.? (or have you released that info already and I missed it?). I think I'll go kick Transport Canada's butt. Allowing RF seat to 65# but yet making it impossible for any seat to pass is frustrating. I wanted to go from RF straight to booster with my last child and couldn't because she hit the 40# limit on her RF seat prior to being booster ready.In fact, anything over 40 lbs in Canada requires testing with a 6YO ATD, which is the reason why we have 40 lb RF weight limits in Canada.
Sorry that it took me so long to get an answer for you on Canada. Here goes:
1) Rear-tethering (Australian method, i.e. tethering back to the top tether) is permitted under the Canadian standard. Rear-tethering to front seat or to floor is NOT permitted under the Canadian standard
2) There is a partial floor on the test bench, but rear-facing child seats may only be secured to the vehicle by means of seat belts, lower connector systems, and tether straps (Australian method explained in #1) without using any other means of attachment. So, you can't use a support leg to test to a higher weight.
You technically can test rear-facing to a higher weight limit in Canada. But, you need to pass all of the necessary tests with a 6YO ATD (injury criteria, new rebound limit, the 70 degree rule, centreline of head below top of child seat, etc.), making it EXTREMELY difficult to go beyond 40 lbs and pass without a support leg. In fact, anything over 40 lbs in Canada requires testing with a 6YO ATD, which is the reason why we have 40 lb RF weight limits in Canada.
Hope this helps clarify things.
Please allow me to clarify. I am only saying that it is EXTREMELY difficult to test beyond 40 lbs in Canada as you need to test with a 6YO ATD (taller occupant). I can't speak for other seat manufacturers specifically. I am merely answering the question that posted earlier about testing requirements in Canada that make higher RF weight limits more difficult.
With regards to testing, the pass/fail criteria for compliance testing allows you to rear-tether to the top tether (prevent downward rotation). It does NOT allow you to rear-tether to the floor or front seat frame (to prevent rebound) to pass compliance testing. I am referring ONLY to the compliance (pass/fail) testing, not whether it is permissible in vehicle.
Please allow me to clarify. I am only saying that it is EXTREMELY difficult to test beyond 40 lbs in Canada as you need to test with a 6YO ATD (taller occupant). I can't speak for other seat manufacturers specifically. I am merely answering the question that posted earlier about testing requirements in Canada that make higher RF weight limits more difficult.
With regards to testing, the pass/fail criteria for compliance testing allows you to rear-tether to the top tether (prevent downward rotation). It does NOT allow you to rear-tether to the floor or front seat frame (to prevent rebound) to pass compliance testing. I am referring ONLY to the compliance (pass/fail) testing, not whether it is permissible in vehicle.
Aha! I found it! I reminds me of THIS!
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=firs...4&tbnw=151&start=0&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0
CPSDarren said:Ok, you win a Clek WTF button, a Car-Seat.Org mousepad and a decal for being the forum sleuth of the year!
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I noted that the "crumple zone" energy absorbing base on the Foonf prototype looked very similar to the FirstSeat concept, but I was asked not to say anything at the time.
Highly encourage use of top tether with lower anchors, if no top tether then they recommend using lap/shoulder or lap belt to install ff
If it was only going to be 40 i wouldn't bother, but 45lbs?! Watch out Diono, if this thing installs easily i will never recommend you again
My understanding was that they require the use of the top tether when using the lower anchors, and that if no top tether is available the seat belt must be used. However, they do test for a "variety of misuse" and, as is required by FMVSS the seat will pass testing for occupants up to 48 lbs using the lower anchors alone. But it's still misuse to use lower anchors and no top tether.
Am I the only one who understood it that way?
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