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RubysGirl

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This is an obituary for a little girl...here's the first sentence...

Devon Justine Greer
8/25/2005 - 12/8/2006
"Grump-o-lumpolos"
Our sweet, sweet baby girl, Devon Justine Greer, age 15 months passed away Friday, December 8, 2006, in Saratoga Springs due to a rare, tragic accident involving the child's car seat she was sleeping in.


http://www.legacy.com/heraldextra/Obituaries.asp?Page=Lifestory&PersonId=20252269


No clue, maybe suffocated or slipped out and strangled in loose straps? Who knows? I'm looking for a news story, i doubt there is oen though.
 

jamijesse

New member
Okay I just read the article about this. Why would someone be taking a 15 month old CAR SEAT AND ALL into the house? I mean sleeping child or not who does that? I mean obviosly she wouldn't still be in an infant carrier so since when do you take a regular car seat in and out of the car like that? Does anybody else find that odd?
 

RubysGirl

New member
She could be in a safeseat, I'd do it. I wouldn't worry about stranglation because it would still be buckled, harness snug, and in the room I am in.
 

scatterbunny

New member
I actually know some folks who would do just that--take the carseat out of the car and carry it inside, sleeping child and all, so as not to wake up the child. Lots of kids do sleep better in the carseat due to reflux issues or whatever.

I did let Hayley sleep in her infant seat pretty often, but she was always buckled up in the seat.
 

lovinwaves

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I actually know some folks who would do just that--take the carseat out of the car and carry it inside, sleeping child and all, so as not to wake up the child. Lots of kids do sleep better in the carseat due to reflux issues or whatever.

I did let Hayley sleep in her infant seat pretty often, but she was always buckled up in the seat.


But, at 15mths old? Don't most kids outgrow that reflux by 12mths or so...
 

skaterbabs

Well-known member
When the boys were younger and had had a particularly long or difficult day, I did on occasion remove them seat and all. I've done the same with Joyjoy when dropping her off at the ILs for babysitting.
 

Alicia-N-2SafeBugs

Senior Community Member
A friend of mine (that lives in that area and showed me the article) said that on the news they are saying it was an infant seat. I'm doubting it was a safe seat. Were those even out 15 months ago? From the way the article talks...she was slumped over when they found her...it sounds like the harness was undone. Maybe she did strangle in the straps. My friend said they are still investigating the true cause of death. I'll keep you updated!
 

jamijesse

New member
So people actually uninstall and remove a convertable seat and take it into the house? I don't know but with us it's usually such a big to do to get the seat installed properly we don't take it out unless we absolutely have to.

And yes with and Infant Seat that seems normal to me because it's a carrier. But a fifteen month old should no way be in an infant seat right?

I guess there's nothing wrong with taking a regular seat out of the car and carrying it in. It just seems like it would be very heavy and a lot of trouble to me and I've just never heard of anyone doing it. Again and infant seat yes, other seats I don't know. Don't get me wrong if anybody does that I'm not saying it's bad or anything. Like I said we just have a hard time getting a really tight install so we don't undo it if we don't have to.
 

honeybee03

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nfant Car Seats Might Pose Breathing Risks

By Ed Edelson
HealthDay Reporter 28 minutes ago

FRIDAY, Dec. 8 (HealthDay News) -- Babies should not be left alone to sleep in car safety seats, especially if they were born prematurely, New Zealand pediatricians report.
Their warning, published in this week's issue of the British Medical Journal, is based on a study of nine infants, aged 3 days to 6 months, who were referred to the Auckland Cot Monitoring Service by parents alarmed by what they described as infants who were "blue," "scrunched up" or "not breathing."

"All but one case occurred when the infants had been left in the car seats indoors, allowing them to fall asleep unrestrained in an upright position," said a report by the group, led by Dr. Alistair J. Gunn, an associate professor of physiology and pediatrics at the University of Auckland.

All the infants survived, but the parents were given advice on better positioning to prevent future problems, and warnings about not leaving the babies in the car seats for excessive periods of time.

It's a "fairly important paper," said Dr. Christopher Greeley, medical director of the newborn nursery at Vanderbilt Children's Hospital in Nashville, because it demonstrates the potential dangers of car seats, which are regarded as essential for protecting children if accidents occur.

"The take-home message is that parents should not leave babies unattended in car seats," Greeley said. "If you leave a very young baby in a car seat, the structure of the head, bigger in the back, can cause the airway, the trachea, to be narrowed."

Vanderbilt follows the recommendation of the American Academy of Pediatrics -- that all babies born before 37 weeks of pregnancy get a car seat test before they leave the hospital, he said.

"They get the test for the potentially longest duration of the ride home, so that they don't have this kind of positional occlusion," Greeley said. "The test is done for premature babies or full-term babies who have issues with their airways. If they are born really small, have poor nutrition or have poor neck control, we do the test."

When the children do get home, leaving them in car seats for a prolonged period is not a good idea, Greeley said. "The more they are left in, the more predisposed they are to have partial blockage of the airways," he noted. "Sleeping in a car seat is not necessarily a cause of death, but there is a higher likelihood that a baby somewhere will have difficulty with breathing."

"Car seats should only be used for transportation purposes," said Linda White, injury prevention coordinator at the Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center. "Bringing one into the house and leaving a child in it, that is not what they are intended for."

Parents sometimes bring a car seat into the house and leave a baby in it "because they don't want to disturb them," White said. "But you don't want them [the babies] to be at that extended angle for a long period of time. We encourage families even when they are traveling to stop often and take the baby out of the car seat. The extended period of time is the key."

Marjorie Marciano, director of the safety education office at the New York City Department of Transportation, offers this advice: "We do know that using a car seat that is installed correctly can reduce the risk of injury significantly, for example by 70 percent for children under 1 year old," she said. "Installed correctly means that it should be at an angle of 45 degrees. When working with parents, we always say that it is important that the seat be at the right angle to keep the airway open."
 

jamijesse

New member
As for the reflux thing doctor are now saying children are NOT better off sleeping in their carseats to help the reflux. Five years ago my little girl had such severe reflux she was hospitalized and saw specialist after specialist because it was causing her to lose weight and not be able to gain. It was horrible. Back then the doctors suggested putting her in her carrier for the reflux (it never helped). Like someone else mentioned as far as I've ever known even very severe reflux like my daughter had usually gets markedly better or completely gone by the time the child sits up on their own. Of course I'm sure this isn't always the case but I've never heard of a fifteen month old with such a problem.

Anyway what I'm getting to is doctors are now saying that they thing leaving babies in carries actually aggravates the reflux. Something to do with their insides being squished up.

I just wanted to mention this to let people know in case they might have a little one going through the reflux. Of course as with anything if it works for you and is safe then by all means do it.
 

skaterbabs

Well-known member
Joyjoy never had reflux, but she was not ever and is not now a "good sleeper". I will avoid waking her whenever possible, even to the point of sitting in the car and reading until she wakes up.
 

Jewels

Senior Community Member
When ds was in the infant and in the infant seat then I would leave him in the seat if he was sleeping checking on him often. Normally, in the convertable seat I just pick him up and he stays asleep. I have taken out my carseat, child and all if he is sleeping. This isn't typical but last Jan. I did because we were up all night and he wouldn't nap, I didn't want to risk waking him up! He would have been 18-19 months. Also after he was two I did this when we were at a wedding. I didn't have a stroller with me so I sat the carseat right beside me.
 
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blue_nova

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Okay I just read the article about this. Why would someone be taking a 15 month old CAR SEAT AND ALL into the house? I mean sleeping child or not who does that? I mean obviosly she wouldn't still be in an infant carrier so since when do you take a regular car seat in and out of the car like that? Does anybody else find that odd?

It may be "odd" to take a regular car seat out w/ a sleeping child in it but I have done this quite a few times.....once I even took my son still buckled in his carseat out of the car like this when he was awake because he and the seat were both covered in vomit and it just seemed easyer this way......so "odd" maybe but i guess im not that convntional of a parent....
 

tjham

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It may be "odd" to take a regular car seat out w/ a sleeping child in it but I have done this quite a few times.....once I even took my son still buckled in his carseat out of the car like this when he was awake because he and the seat were both covered in vomit and it just seemed easyer this way......so "odd" maybe but i guess im not that convntional of a parent....

Ditto to this, even to the "vomit situation"!!!!!!!! ;)
 

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