Links/study help please!!

Mommy0608 · Jul 16, 2009

A friend wants info on hip/knee/leg strain or injury statistics for extended rear-facing. She turned her kids FF WAAAY early, and I know she won't turn them back RF. She commented on my facebook link about the Complete Air seat wondering about possible leg or hip injuries. I think she means while RIDING this way, rather than crash injuries, but info on BOTH would be very helpful! I need to convince her it's fine. She kind of rolls her eyes about me keeping my kids RF.

Andie · Jul 16, 2009

Here is a study that says that FF kids have more broken legs.

Here is a very large (pdf) study from a few different countries that says that RF is safest.

That's all I have at the moment.

MomToEliEm · Jul 16, 2009

Here are some other links regarding injuries:
http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/13/6/398) (only shows the abstract of the actual paper)
http://carseatblog.com/?p=34#more-34

Mommy0608 · Jul 16, 2009

Thanks! I have lots of info about RF being safest and those studies, but from what I can tell none of them have any hard data proving that there is no increased risk of leg/hip strain or injury from sitting RF... none of them say there IS an increased risk either, of course (because there isn't). However, my friend wants studies that address the concern of sitting that way, not about the crash injuries.

I will go check out the links you provided... hopefully there will be some stats in there!

Thanks again.

joolsplus3 · Jul 17, 2009

She might as well be asking for proof of Bigfoot, lol.. ain't no such thang. If there were, recliners would be banned, and putting your feet up on the coffee table would be public health risk #1.

Mommy0608 · Jul 17, 2009

Thanks. That's what I thought. She's the engineer type that needs hard data and numbers... or perhaps she just wants to poke a hole in the fact that RF really IS safest since she turned her kids early. I responded to her with this last night:

Most of the studies I've seen have stats for crash-related injuries, rather than from sitting. However, all the data that points to the safety of extended rear-facing mentions that there is no concern for the safety of legs while riding this way. One thing to consider is that the amount of time my kids are in the car really doesn't add up to much. There are plenty of options for where to put legs, too (straight up, crossed, etc.). Plus, they sit, play and sleep in all kinds of weird positions throughout the day for longer periods of time than while in the car. Kids are so much more flexible than us. If you would like some specific studies/links, please let me know. I'll dig them up for ya.

Jan06twinmom · Jul 17, 2009

Jenny -

One of the moms on the IV boards is a physical therapist. I'm thinking that research on different positions might be more relevant to her field. She also knows about and practices erf with her own twins. Do you want me to ask her if she knows about any studies related to this?

Melanie

SafeandSecureBaby · Jul 17, 2009

The problem is that you can not prove a negative. If something doesn't happen, then there simply aren't going to be studies to show the non-occurence. The fact that there isn't anything in the literature is proof in and of itself that it doesn't occur.

It's like saying show me the studies that show there is less brusing to people not involved in a collision with respect to people who fall off 100 story buildings. There aren't going to be any.

Mommy0608 · Jul 17, 2009

Jan06twinmom said:
Jenny -

One of the moms on the IV boards is a physical therapist. I'm thinking that research on different positions might be more relevant to her field. She also knows about and practices erf with her own twins. Do you want me to ask her if she knows about any studies related to this?

Melanie

Thanks Melanie, that would be great if it's not too much trouble. My friend did not respond to my reply but I know she read it. Not sure if I should pursue it any farther though, but if the info is readily available I'll pass it along (plus it would be nice to have on hand for future reference).

SafeandSecureBaby said:
The problem is that you can not prove a negative. If something doesn't happen, then there simply aren't going to be studies to show the non-occurence. The fact that there isn't anything in the literature is proof in and of itself that it doesn't occur.

It's like saying show me the studies that show there is less brusing to people not involved in a collision with respect to people who fall off 100 story buildings. There aren't going to be any.

Yes, exactly! Good point! Thanks.

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