So if it passed FMVSS, but not CMVSS, what makes it safer here?

jrmo

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I'm just curious and I'm sure this has been discussed before, but all the discussion on the new AP, has got me thinking about this. It's rated to 40RFing here, but only 35 in Canada. The Marathon is rated to 35 here, but only 30 (right?) in Canada. So how is the testing different? Should I consider turning DD at the Canadian limit? I'm just having some doubts about seats that pass "just enough" in the US that it doesn't in a Canadian test. Can anyone offer some insight on this? TIA!
 
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vonfirmath

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For the Marathon, at least, I don't think its ever been tested to 35 in Canada to know if it would pass or fail. When it was tested, you could not test above 30. And they have not retested since then,

Who knows, maybe Canada won't test above 35 RFing now.
 

April

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For the Marathon, at least, I don't think its ever been tested to 35 in Canada to know if it would pass or fail. When it was tested, you could not test above 30. And they have not retested since then,

Who knows, maybe Canada won't test above 35 RFing now.

I'll see what someone else wants to divuldge here, but with respect to the example above, yes it was tested above 30lbs, and it is currently rated to 33lbs. There are other 35lbs seats here.

The only limit there has been on what weight they "could" test to RF'ing was 48lbs until mid 2007, and now 65lbs. Any seat could be tested to 65lbs RF'ing in Canada if a manufacturer chose to do so. There was never a time (at least not since the MA has been around) that you could not test above 30lbs RF'ing.

As to the OP's original question, our test sled is different than the one used in the US. Hopefully Trudy will be along soon and can say more.
 

bubbaray

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The Cdn MAs USED to be rated to 33lbs. They are CURRENTLY rated to 30lbs. I have one of each and it is definitely the older MAs that were rated to 33lbs.

I'll leave it to Trudy and/or Nicole (or any of our other senior techs/instructors) to detail the reasons.

Personally, if I were in the US, I'd use my seats per the US labelling. I'm using my Canadian seats per the Canadian labelling.
 

Lea_Ontario

Well-known member
I'm just curious and I'm sure this has been discussed before, but all the discussion on the new AP, has got me thinking about this. It's rated to 40RFing here, but only 35 in Canada.

Directly from Safety 1st (via their facebook wall) :
Safety 1st at 5:10pm July 7
The Complete Air™ Convertible Car Seat with Air Protect™ Technology has not yet been evaluated to 40 lbs in Canada. Thanks!
 

jrmo

New member
Good info from Safety 1st, thanks. :) I was basing my statement on the Babies R Us Canada website.

I read somewhere that the Canadian sled is less inclined than the US sled, which no longer accurately represents most back seats. My point is just that if a slight incline change makes it NOT pass, how do I know if it's truly safe in my car all the way to 35 (or 40) pounds.
 

kandamom

New member
Excellent question. I look forward to reading my thoughts on this, as my son is approaching the US rear facing limits on his seat. As the OP wondered, do the seats pass "just enough" in the US when used close to the rf limits?

Rebecca
 

TechnoGranola

Forum Ambassador
I knew it, I just knew it. It already passed to the limits stated for Canada (35 RF and is it 50 FF?) because it's the same shell as the AOE (or some other Dorel model). So, they didn't bother to pay to retest it to 40 lbs. I speculated on another thread that they hadn't tested it. GRRRRRRRR. That's why I needed this seat, was for 40 lbs, I already own a 35 pound RF seat.
 

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