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I am trying to figure out what they mean by this lineMore food for thought:
http://www.cic.cranfield.ac.uk/occupant_p3.htm
Does this mean that RF restraints were tested and do NOT provide the same protection as they do in vehicles? or does it mean they were "unable" to conduct this test on RF restraints? I think it's the former? and does that mean that it's safer to have your child FF if they meet the FF requirements for your child restraint?Further tests evaluated use of automotive child restraints in passenger aircraft. These showed that forward facing restraints could provide similar levels of protection to those provided in cars. Rearward facing restraints were unable to demonstrate this capability when restrained solely by an aircraft lap belt - also reported in CAA paper 92020.
I am trying to figure out what they mean by this line Does this mean that RF restraints were tested and do NOT provide the same protection as they do in vehicles? or does it mean they were "unable" to conduct this test on RF restraints? I think it's the former? and does that mean that it's safer to have your child FF if they meet the FF requirements for your child restraint?
I wondered that myself but then I realized this article was from the UK (I believe) and perhaps seats are designed for lap/shoulder belts there and only tested with lap/shoulder belts?The comment about the lap belt though doesn't make sense because car seats are tested with lap only belts.
They weren't looking at RFing vs FFing specifically. The episode was looking at brace position vs. no brace position. But they did do one test of FFing vs RFing. RFing produced higher G forces, but they said it was ok because the body can take more G forces RFing than FFing. Like (I'm making up numbers here) FFing the body can take 40 Gs, and they were seeing 30 Gs, but RFing they were seeing 60 Gs, but the body can take 80 Gs. (A G is a unit of force equal to the force of gravity, so 40 Gs would be 40 times the force of gravity, for those of you scratching your head.)I wondered that myself but then I realized this article was from the UK (I believe) and perhaps seats are designed for lap/shoulder belts there and only tested with lap/shoulder belts?
I'm going to have to go dig up that Mythbusters episode where they tested plane seating. I seem to recall they came up with rear facing being safest.
It looks like they're allowed to use what we think of as the RFing belt path, they're allowed to use it FFing with a top tether. But without the top tether, the seat rotates forward.Some more links so I can fin them later to review.
http://www.casa.gov.au/airworth/papers/Infant_Restraint.pdf
page 5 shows a pic of a possible issue with some restraints, at least in Australia (page 4 has the description).
It seems it's only benefit may be a way for the airline to make money off of lap babies....The "skycot" (Virgin link above) doesn't look like much of a solution to anything except a place to put them down if they are sleeping. The baby isn't really restrained in there and it sounds like you have to take them out for take off, landing, and turbulence. What good is that?
Hann says that given most airlines recoup a small charge from passengers using child seats, there is a fairly fast return on investment. Virgin, for instance, charges £30 for the use of a skycot. "Virgin has 100% take-up of the seat in their aircraft," Hann says.
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