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View Poll Results: Would you re-harness her? (In this situation)

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    Would you re-harness this child?

    Child is a girl, 7 years old, 55lbs, 18 inch torso. Currently sits in a high back booster, although not correctly about 50-60% of the time. This is not a discipline issue or for lack of "booster training", she has some issues with paying attention and remembering things, as well as a real lack of impulse control (more so than most kids her age or younger). Locking the seatbelts is not an option because it is a vehicle with locking latchplates.

    If money were not much of an issue, would you re-harness this child? (Presumably a regent is the only option at this point). A Regent could be passed down once outgrown by the 7 year old. How much room to grow would a child with an 18 inch torso have in a Regent?
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    If it were my child? Yes, I'd probably do it.

    If it were someone else's child? I wouldn't push the issue very strongly.

    ETA: But is the Regent a legal option for this child? (Just realized that you're in Canada.)
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Can you lock the seatbelt so she can't move around so much?

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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Ideally, I would. But really I wouldn't because I don't trust the hooks enough to use them as TAs
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Quote Originally Posted by BookMama View Post
    ETA: But is the Regent a legal option for this child? (Just realized that you're in Canada.)
    This is for one of my children, and I'm comfortable making a parental decision to use a Regent if it will keep her safe. (But that aspect of the decision is not what I'm struggling with at the moment, it's whether to re-harness her, legalities aside )

    Quote Originally Posted by mommyto4kiddos View Post
    Can you lock the seatbelt so she can't move around so much?
    Nope, no retractor. Seatbelt locks at the latchplate.

    Quote Originally Posted by NannyMom View Post
    Ideally, I would. But really I wouldn't because I don't trust the hooks enough to use them as TAs
    Well, operating on the basis that we get to the bottom of that and it's all kosher.
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    I would absolutely re-harness in that situation. Having a child that doesn't sit correctly for that amount of time would be a huge distraction to me while I'm driving, not to mention increased risk of injury for them in the event of an accident. So yes, if it were my child, I would get a Regent.

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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Either that or an 86Y. Are they usable in CA?

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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Quote Originally Posted by Genevieve View Post
    I would absolutely re-harness in that situation. Having a child that doesn't sit correctly for that amount of time would be a huge distraction to me while I'm driving, not to mention increased risk of injury for them in the event of an accident. So yes, if it were my child, I would get a Regent.
    It IS a huge distraction. Also a huge bad example for the three younger children in the vehicle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Judi View Post
    Either that or an 86Y. Are they usable in CA?
    I have no idea if they are or not. Like I said, the question is not "Would you use an ILLEGAL seat in this situation", because I'm already prepared to do that if it'll keep her safe. However, if the 86Y is legal in Canada, that would be a preferred option.

    I'll admit as well, that part of my motivation here is that it might "teach her" how to sit properly as bad as that sounds. She does not want to be harnessed. She rode in our GN for 30 minutes and was begging for us to pull over and get her out of it. (She is even with the top slots though, so using that is not an option). I've been telling her forever that if she can't sit properly, I'm going to put her in a harnessed seat. But really, her impulse control is terrible (right across the board, not just in this aspect) and so maybe a few months - a year in a harness will get the message across that she has to sit properly if she wants the "privelege" of a booster. She has a LOT of heavy emotional stuff right now, and I think right now, it'd be easier on everyone if she was harnessed safely, instead of daily battles in the car and pulling over every five minutes.
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Well, as 86Y would help teach her, and be an easy change back to her booster, when she decides she is ready.

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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Quote Originally Posted by Judi View Post
    Well, as 86Y would help teach her, and be an easy change back to her booster, when she decides she is ready.
    I'm trying to find out if we can use them here, but of course "86Y" is too short to search by...Grrr....
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Try Ezon 86Y.

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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    It doesn't say anything about approval to anything but U.S. standards on their site but there is ordering info for Canada on their ordering information page. However I don't know if that is just for buses or what. You could contact them and find out.
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Aren't they only from 66lbs & up?
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Quote Originally Posted by proudmomofriley View Post
    Aren't they only from 66lbs & up?
    Maybe the 43Y then. It can be used to 65 lbs.

    I can't wait to get mine. I so need training with them.
    Last edited by Judi; 01-26-2009 at 02:04 AM.

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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Quote Originally Posted by proudmomofriley View Post
    Aren't they only from 66lbs & up?
    An 86Y can be used for a child 40-65lbs if used with a booster. - http://www.ezonpro.com/instructions/...ehicle_86y.pdf

    I'm not sure if this info is still current, but here are two threads about using one in Canada-

    http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=19532
    http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=22794

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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Thank you Crunchy! I don't know if I could actually go about getting a prescription for her, since she has no family doctor at the moment, but it's definitely something to look into. (And cheaper than a Regent).
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Hmmm. So both 86 Y and RSTV are available, but you have to have a doctor's note?
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Question though...because I don't totally "get" how the RSTV or 86Y work...Since we don't have locking retractors, would it be just the tether stopping her from leaning forward and getting out of position? If anyone has used one, could you describe how constricting (restricting? confining?) they are in comparison to a 5pt seat?
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    I know the RSTV is VERY confining. They are really stuck once they get put in, from what I've heard.

    I am not sure about the 86 Y.
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    Re: Would you re-harness this child?

    Quote Originally Posted by ketchupqueen View Post
    I know the RSTV is VERY confining. They are really stuck once they get put in, from what I've heard.
    Lol, that's what I'm going for.
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