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    Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    ...who weighs more than 33 pounds. What do you think about this? The child cannot sit up on his own.

    Am I wrong in assuming it would be detrimental if they were in an accident?

    I met this woman in the parking lot at Trader Joe's. I don't normally do this, btw. I'm just guessing Britax doesn't allow this because it is dangerous. How strong is the mechanism that holds the MA in recline mode? Is this really a valid exception?

    She acted like a professional of some sort installed her seat for her. I realize that doesn't mean much, though. And she wasn't exactly in the mood to chat, understandably so as I just insulted her parenting choices, and she obviously has a lot on her plate. She answered my questions but was quite defensive. She otherwise seemed like a very responsible person. So maybe my, "Hey wait a minute, your Marathon should be in upright mode!" comment wasn't completely out of line and put a bug in her ear. Maybe she'll go home and think about it, or possibly whip out the manual.
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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    If the child cannot sit up on his own he should be a in specialized seat to both correctly position him as well as harness him. Using the MA inappropriately just because it positions him well does not mean it will perform well in an accident. She needs a seat for him that does both.

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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    I'd be curious to hear opinions from some people who have taken the special needs class. For kids with special needs, sometimes it's necessary to bend the rules. I don't have the expertise to say whether or not what you saw was ok or not, but it could be.

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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    I've dealt with a kid with low tone (my own) and it was hard to find a good seat for a kid that was soon to be FF'd but had some good support.

    We did a RF AO for a long time, and then went to a RF uptown(still in it, and FF's in Signo when he's too heavy to RF).

    I actually got a Como first. The como offers a ton of head support.

    However, if he can't sit up on his own AT ALL, he needs a Roosevelt or a EZtether? Seat. Or a Britax TP.
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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    Quote Originally Posted by JessicaS View Post
    ...who weighs more than 33 pounds. What do you think about this? The child cannot sit up on his own.

    Am I wrong in assuming it would be detrimental if they were in an accident?

    I met this woman in the parking lot at Trader Joe's. I don't normally do this, btw. I'm just guessing Britax doesn't allow this because it is dangerous. How strong is the mechanism that holds the MA in recline mode? Is this really a valid exception?

    She acted like a professional of some sort installed her seat for her. I realize that doesn't mean much, though. And she wasn't exactly in the mood to chat, understandably so as I just insulted her parenting choices, and she obviously has a lot on her plate. She answered my questions but was quite defensive. She otherwise seemed like a very responsible person. So maybe my, "Hey wait a minute, your Marathon should be in upright mode!" comment wasn't completely out of line and put a bug in her ear. Maybe she'll go home and think about it, or possibly whip out the manual.
    The Evenflo Triumph Advance and the Safeseat 2 recline in forward facing mode, but how heavy was the child?

    There are seats specifically for low tone children. They're pricey, though. I don't know how much, if anything, insurance helps cover.

    http://www.southwestmedical.com/Pedi...escent/21733p0

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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    An Aurora took the special needs class, we should ask her

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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    Quote Originally Posted by wendytthomas View Post
    The Evenflo Triumph Advance and the Safeseat 2 recline in forward facing mode, but how heavy was the child?

    There are seats specifically for low tone children. They're pricey, though. I don't know how much, if anything, insurance helps cover.

    http://www.southwestmedical.com/Pedi...escent/21733p0

    Wendy
    She said he was 4 years old. I didn't actually see him in the seat, and now I'm wondering how much torso room he has left. I didn't get any contact info for this woman. I just saw her there, in the parking lot. She wasn't too pleased with my unsolicited advice.
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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    Quote Originally Posted by LISmama810 View Post
    I'd be curious to hear opinions from some people who have taken the special needs class. For kids with special needs, sometimes it's necessary to bend the rules.
    Sort of. Sometimes it's necessary to think outside the box, but it's never ok to go against manufacturer instructions.

    In my SN class, we were given a list of seats that have recline options in the FF position, to be used in situations just like this
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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    I was under the impression that the MA could be used FF in recline mode. Maybe I need to go read my manual again!
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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    Quote Originally Posted by Nisha View Post
    I was under the impression that the MA could be used FF in recline mode. Maybe I need to go read my manual again!
    It can, but only to 33 pounds. But since kids should be rear facing in them until 33 pounds it's rather moot.

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    laine 9/16/09, 54", 96#, Nuna Aaces, Diono Solana 2
    in my husband's 2018 Toyota Land Cruiser, my 2017 Volvo XC90, and big sister's 2016 Honda Civic
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    Re: Installing FF MA in Recline Mode for Cerebral Palsy child

    Quote Originally Posted by wendytthomas View Post
    It can, but only to 33 pounds. But since kids should be rear facing in them until 33 pounds it's rather moot.

    Wendy
    ah. gotcha.
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