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I looked there but I didnt see if it said there had to be both.
like I said, the seatbelts do lock but the latchplate just has one hole... IE Not locking at all. It slides very freely.
So is it just user choice?
FFing seats can or can't have locking clips? I think I heard that somewhere
As well, since we on the topic, I have a question about locking clips...
Is it wrong to use a locking clip with a sliding latchplate and ALR when installing a FFing convertible seat?
According to above linked reference, the Dodge/Chrysler latchplates may be flipped to keep them locked tight. I want to make sure I am imagining this right...does that mean that the male end of the belt should be flipped over before buckling? I am asking because it seems odd to have the seatbelt twisted (even half a turn). Do you recommend flipping the buckle before latching the buckle in these vehicles? Yes, I do know that using a locking clip would be an option as well...
Only flip the buckle if it's necessary to keep the seatbelt locked. And a locking clip shouldn't be used with a lightweight locking latch plate.
Hmmm, the only reason that I mentioned locking clip as an option was that is listed it as an option in the above reference:
*Note: Chrysler and Dodge lightweight locking latchplates won't hold a car seat tight and you should flip the latchplate over once so that it is upside down before buckling or use a locking clip with those latchplates. Flipping the latchplate upside down will keep the seat belt from sliding through the latchplate and force the lightweight locking mechanism to hold tight. This should never be done with a latchplate that doesn't lock.
The bolding is mine. Now I am confused. Can you clarify?
Since flipping the latchplate a half turn is going to fix the problem, the only instance that a locking clip should be used is if for some reason you couldn't re-buckle the seatbelt after flipping the latchplate.
I think the bigger question is when would you have an ALR with a sliding latchplate? How common is that? I believe the OP is meaning a switchable retractor. If that's the case, the question has been covered as such. You'd use a locking clip or lockoff when a car seat is rf and tipping because the retractor is locked (because it's been switched to locking mode from ELR or because it's an ALR seat belt which I'm trying to think of at this time of day, but it's escaping me where you'd find one with a sliding latchplate) OR because you have an ELR retractor. For ff, you really don't want to use a locking clip if you have a locking retractor of any kind because it's just extra work and who wants that . You'll need it if you have an ELR and no lockoff.
This is one reason why it's so important to get the terminology correct when talking about seat belts and retractors--it's very confusing when it comes to ALR vs. switchable retractors in some discussions .
I think the bigger question is when would you have an ALR with a sliding latchplate? How common is that? I believe the OP is meaning a switchable retractor. If that's the case, the question has been covered as such. You'd use a locking clip or lockoff when a car seat is rf and tipping because the retractor is locked (because it's been switched to locking mode from ELR or because it's an ALR seat belt which I'm trying to think of at this time of day, but it's escaping me where you'd find one with a sliding latchplate) OR because you have an ELR retractor. For ff, you really don't want to use a locking clip if you have a locking retractor of any kind because it's just extra work and who wants that . You'll need it if you have an ELR and no lockoff.
This is one reason why it's so important to get the terminology correct when talking about seat belts and retractors--it's very confusing when it comes to ALR vs. switchable retractors in some discussions .
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