Which would you pick?

lovinwaves

New member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #1

New 2 seater Cadillac Convertible. Dual Stage Airbag

2 1/2 year old, 28lbs.

Assuming they needed to ride in the vehicle. Would you ff them, or rf them?

 

Patriot201

Car-Seat.org Ambassador

• Mar 31, 2008

• #2

Well, I would say try RFing. If it doesn't work well, though, I wouldn't feel guilty about FFing her.



ETA: Never mind. I just reread the post. It is a two-seater. Duh! I didn't read carefully.

FF her!

 

MySillyKids

New member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #3

FF.

 

BookMama

Senior Community Member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #4

FF for sure. I would NOT put a RF seat in front of that airbag even if it is a "smart" airbag.

See this thread and scroll down to see how some of us feel about putting a RF seat in front of a "smart" airbag: http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=40787

 

lovinwaves

New member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #5

BookMama said:

FF for sure. I would NOT put a RF seat in front of that airbag even if it is a "smart" airbag.

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*nodding in agreement*

 

BookMama

Senior Community Member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #6

Oops, I just realized how snarky my comment sounded, especially when responding to someone with 6,000 posts (which I didn't notice). No snark or know-it-all-ness intended, really!

 

crunchierthanthou

New member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #7

I don't trust smart airbags for rf, either. I would ff him- especially at 2.5. If he was younger I would find any way I could to have him ride in a different vehicle, but ff if there just wasn't another option (assuming he was within the legal limits to ff). Although, I'd probably have a panic attack under 18 months or so.

Does it have a tether anchor?

 

lovinwaves

New member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #8

crunchierthanthou said:

Does it have a tether anchor?

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Pretty sure it doesn't. I would probably install the Radian over the Marathon.

Now...what about the different height positions of the Radian vs. Marathon(in regards to a side impact crash)? :question: This car literally sits inches off the ground.

 

TXDani

Senior Community Member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #9

Is this your new car??

And uh, yeah on the topic I would ff also!

 

lovinwaves

New member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #10

thefosters.2 said:

Is this your new car??

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Nope. It's Papa's, who is desperately wanting to take DS for a ride in it LOL

 

crunchierthanthou

New member

• Mar 31, 2008

• #11

is this an XLR? what year?

04-05 had LA and airbag had an on/off switch.

for 06-07, the LATCH manual says-

No Top Tethers or LA, no switch. (bolding theirs)

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you said new, right? unless they changed it back for 08, the airbag is active.

 

snowbird25ca

Moderator - CPST Instructor

• Apr 1, 2008

• #12

Definitely ff.

I'd be inclined to go Radian - lower head excursion value (remember no safe-stop if not top tethered,) and the lower profile to me seems like it would be a good thing because he'd be further back from the airbag just because the seat doesn't stick out as far, and being lower would enclose the seat more by what protective cage it does have. If the MA lifted him up more into the window area I would see that as less SIP. Plus the Radian would also sit slightly further away from the door due to the narrower profile.

And based on what Dave said in the SK chat, they do do SIP testing on the Radian. And it's steel frame has to count for something too I'd think.

So yeah, my vote would be 100% for the radian installed ff'ing.

 

skaterbabs

Well-known member

• Apr 1, 2008

• #13

Patriot201 said:

Well, I would say try RFing. If it doesn't work well, though, I wouldn't feel guilty about FFing her.



ETA: Never mind. I just reread the post. It is a two-seater. Duh! I didn't read carefully.

FF her!

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:yeahthat: I don't trust the airbag sensors.

 

Loves2sing

New member

• Apr 1, 2008

• #14

snowbird25ca said:

Definitely ff.



So yeah, my vote would be 100% for the radian installed ff'ing.

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I completley agree. I think that he is close enough to to weight limits to be comfortable FF, and I would want him to be as far back from the airbag as possible. I wouldn't even consider going RF in this scenario. If I wasn't comfortable having him FF, I wouldn't be willing to let him have a ride with Papa in the new car until he was a little bit bigger.:twocents:

I would also go with the Radian as it sits a lot lower, and I would just feel much more comfortable with that for some reason. I am not sure why, but my instincts would have me choose the Radian.

 

stayinhomewithmy6

Senior Community Member

• Apr 1, 2008

• #15

I agree with everyone else. I would FF in the Radian, as far back from the airbag as possible.