Radian - where's the "it's okay for use on an aircraft" sticker?

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Mom2girls

New member

• Feb 24, 2008

• #1

We're flying in a couple days, and I noticed on Air Canada's website that it states the car seat needs two stickers to fly, one of which states something about it being certified for aircraft use.

My dh looked for such a sticker - do you know where it's located? I'd hate to run into trouble at the airport!

 

smurf

New member

• Feb 24, 2008

• #2

See p. 26 of the Radian's instruction manual. It refers specifically to aircraft use.

Bring it along to the airport.

 

unityco

Ambassador - CPS Technician

• Feb 24, 2008

• #3

It's the CMVSS maple leaf sticker, and when you're looking at the front of the Radian, it's on the right side, near the fold (at least that's where it is on mine ) It's kinda buried.

I have been denied boarding by Air Canada until they saw the sticker, and I have been made to uninstall my seat (with my sleeping child in it) to show the sticker. Usually, that only happens on the smaller planes. I hope you have a smooth flight!

 

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momto2boysinOnt

Member

• Feb 24, 2008

• #4

I've had trouble flying with a Canadian Radian on a US-based airline because it did not have the FAA approval sticker. On the next flight, I showed the CMVSS sticker and pulled the manual out from under the cover and showed the statement and they let me go. I'm flying out of Buffalo again next week, and I hope we don't have any trouble.

 

unityco

Ambassador - CPS Technician

• Feb 24, 2008

• #5

You can actually see the sticker just peeking out in this photo from Trudy's Outlook thread (scroll down to the 2nd and 3rd photos.)

http://car-seat.org/showpost.php?p=350431&postcount=13

(It's the round sticker at the bottom of the back that is mostly covered.)

 

QuassEE

Moderator - CPST Instructor

• Feb 24, 2008

• #6

The CMVSS sticker alone is enough to fly with a harnessed seat in Canada. The FAA also permits foreign seats to be used on all of their flights so long as they are certified for flight by the foreign country they're from.

If any US airline tries to stop you from using a Canadian seat--let them know it's a violation of FAA rules to deny you using a certified seat, and foreign certified seats are permissible per the FAA. Make a stink--they'll find the answer quite quickly once you threaten to delay their plane.

-Nicole.

 

CDNTech

Senior Community Member

• Feb 24, 2008

• #7

Yeah that, to everyone else. There is NO FAA sticker on the Radian... it's only in the instruction manual.

You could always do what I did... show him the CMVSS label and have the air canada agent tell you... see, it's right there, where it says N... (he was pointing at the french labelling of CMVSS).

We've only ever had trouble on the east coast... apparently they only train their agents on the west side of Canada.

 

unityco

Ambassador - CPS Technician

• Feb 24, 2008

• #8

aidensmom02 said:

We've only ever had trouble on the east coast... apparently they only train their agents on the west side of Canada.

Click to expand...

I've only ever had problems on the west coast (YVR, especially!)

 

CDNTech

Senior Community Member

• Feb 24, 2008

• #9

I've only flown out of Vancouver once with the boys and no issues... we fly out of Calgary a lot and have *never* had a problem.

I had nothing but hassles in Halifax, but we've only done that once as well (so not totally fair with my hassling the east coast ). We'll see if they are any better in June when we fly out of there again.

 

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Mom2girls

New member

• Feb 24, 2008

• #10

Alright - I found it. Thanks all for the info (and the chuckles! )

 

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hipmaman

Moderator - CPST Instructor

• Feb 24, 2008

• #11

As long as the seat has the CMVSS 213 and 213.1 certification it is aircraft-approved. Here is something from TC to print out and bring along (and the Radian manual of course) http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/commerce/CabinSafety/tips/faq2.htm

 

BudgieStew

New member

• Feb 25, 2008

• #12

I've flown with the Radian's a few times out of Montreal and Halifax and have never had them ask to see if its allowed for use in flight.
I did get some vibes that they may want to question me or was unsure about it, but I made it seem like it was normal. Just barreled ahead and installed it.

I do keep a copy of their(AC) rules concerning car seat usage on flights with me. Since I think flying with a car seat for a older child (three years) is not so common.

I had one flight attendant say it was great that I was using a car seat onboard. As well as many comments of OMG this is heavy!!! Most attendants were just impressed that it folded.

 

BudgieStew

New member

• Feb 25, 2008

• #13

I just read the TC link.

Could someone clarify what they heck they mean by the CARE harness being approved but "Air operators must meet the conditions of the exemption prior to permitting the use of this device on board their aircraft. "

What? Huh?