Need quick help! Nissan Titan/Regent install

chasingboys · Jan 8, 2008

I read somewhere that Nissan allows use of latch to the limits of the seat (even the Regent) is this true?

I'm installing a Regent for my friend today and I'm kind of nervous about doing sbp in a Nissan since I've heard so many horror stories, but obviously will install it properly. I'm so happy too because this is the friend that had her 59lb. 3y/o in an AO 3-1 (using the unuseable w/harness top spot and still using the harness) So I'm glad I talked her into the Regent!

Anyway, can we use latch over 48lbs in a Nissan?

azgirl71 · Jan 8, 2008

According to this you can follow the car seat mfgr instructions. I would read the vehicle manual though in case it say different in the manual

murphydog77 · Jan 8, 2008

Yes, the Regent allows use of LATCH to 80 lbs. as long as the vehicle allows use of LATCH to 80 lbs.

Defrost · Jan 8, 2008

chasingboys said:
I'm installing a Regent for my friend today and I'm kind of nervous about doing lbp in a Nissan since I've heard so many horror stories, but obviously will install it properly. I'm so happy too because this is the friend that had her 59lb. 3y/o in an AO 3-1 (using the unuseable w/harness top spot and still using the harness)

I think with children over 40lbs you now have to use SBP, not LBP?

chasingboys · Jan 8, 2008

Defrost said:
I think with children over 40lbs you now have to use SBP, not LBP?

I meant SBP, and typed LBP...oops...off to edit now!

She's looking up the info in her trucks manual. I *heart* latch....so much easier! I'm definitely getting a Nissan as my next vehicle! lol

Connor's Mom · Jan 8, 2008

My 2004 Maxima only allowed LATCH to the limit of the car seat.

chasingboys · Jan 8, 2008

we looked in her manual and it did say you can use latch to the carseat manufactures recommendations, so I installed it latch (it's a pre 6/07 Regent) but I used Latch w/recline bar and it installed rock solid. I probably could have installed SBP with no problem also because the seatbelt stalk was different than on the Quest.

Connor's Mom · Jan 8, 2008

chasingboys said:
we looked in her manual and it did say you can use latch to the carseat manufactures recommendations, so I installed it latch (it's a pre 6/07 Regent) but I used Latch w/recline bar and it installed rock solid. I probably could have installed SBP with no problem also because the seatbelt stalk was different than on the Quest.

I'm confused.

If her truck manual states that LATCH can be used to the carseat manufactures recommendations then you have to go by the Regent LATCH limit which is 48 pounds. Is this install for the above described kiddo that is 59 pounds? If so you can't install with LATCH as he is 11 pounds over the limit and the seat must be installed with the seatbelt.

azgirl71 · Jan 8, 2008

Connor's Mom said:
I'm confused.
If her truck manual states that LATCH can be used to the carseat manufactures recommendations then you have to go by the Regent LATCH limit which is 48 pounds. Is this install for the above described kiddo that is 59 pounds? If so you can't install with LATCH as he is 11 pounds over the limit and the seat must be installed with the seatbelt.

You are correct :thumbsup:
From Page 11 of the Regent manual

WARNING:Use vehicle belt (not LATCH connectors)
for installations with children weighing more than 48 pounds
(21 kg). Refer to the vehicle owner’s manual or contact the
vehicle manufacturer for the maximum weight rating for their lower anchors.
Unless specified otherwise by the vehicle manufacturer, assume a 48-pound
child is the vehicle LATCH anchor limit.

azgirl71 · Jan 8, 2008

chasingboys said:
we looked in her manual and it did say you can use latch to the carseat manufactures recommendations, so I installed it latch (it's a pre 6/07 Regent) but I used Latch w/recline bar and it installed rock solid. I probably could have installed SBP with no problem also because the seatbelt stalk was different than on the Quest.

I am sorry. You will need to reinstall the Regent according to the carseat manual. Yes the Regent is good to 80 lbs, but you cannot use latch past 48 lbs per the manual. I am sure you will be able to get a good install using the SBP.

Link quoted in my reply to a PP.

azgirl71 said:
You are correct :thumbsup:
From Page 11 of the Regent manual
WARNING:Use vehicle belt (not LATCH connectors)
for installations with children weighing more than 48 pounds
(21 kg). Refer to the vehicle owner’s manual or contact the
vehicle manufacturer for the maximum weight rating for their lower anchors.
Unless specified otherwise by the vehicle manufacturer, assume a 48-pound
child is the vehicle LATCH anchor limit.

chasingboys · Jan 8, 2008

murphydog77 said:
Yes, the Regent allows use of LATCH to 80 lbs. as long as the vehicle allows use of LATCH to 80 lbs.

So then where did this come from? I'm going to have to reinstall then.

This is why I asked before I installed, I had every intention of installing it SBP, but I had read that with some Nissan's you can use latch (on the Regent up to 80lbs). so I wanted to confirm. Now, doesn't the above statement sound like I CAN install the Regent with latch past 48lbs if the car manual says it's ok?

I really need to get this clarified asap.

azgirl71 · Jan 9, 2008

chasingboys said:
So then where did this come from? I'm going to have to reinstall then.

This is why I asked before I installed, I had every intention of installing it SBP, but I had read that with some Nissan's you can use latch (on the Regent up to 80lbs). so I wanted to confirm. Now, doesn't the above statement sound like I CAN install the Regent with latch past 48lbs if the car manual says it's ok?

I really need to get this clarified asap.

I know it is frustrating especially since you asked ahead of time. If you look at my 1st reply to you I state you can follow the car seat manufacturer instructions

Yes, her statement sounds as if it is ok

. But I it is in the Regent manual as I showed you and you cannot use LATCH past 48 lbs and that is what you need to go by. Reading the manual to both the vehicle and the car seat are the 1st two things you should do before installing a car seat.

ETA: Most vehicles are 40 or 48 lbs. There are a couple of vehicle that allow LATCH use to 60 lbs. I think Volvo is one of them. I would call tha car seat manufacture if the car seat said 48 lbs, but your vehicle said 60lbs and see what they said before installin with LATCH past 48lbs :twocents:

azgirl71 · Jan 9, 2008

murphydog77 said:
Yes, the Regent allows use of LATCH to 80 lbs. as long as the vehicle allows use of LATCH to 80 lbs.

After readingthis statement again ....This is what I get from it. The KEY words in her statement are "As long as the vehicle allows use to 80 lbs" So she did not tell you incorrectly. She stated a fact that you can do that *IF* the vehicle says you can. The vehicle said to follow the car seat manufacture instructions

Ogreenlee · Jan 9, 2008

Ok, this applies to me, too...

This is copied from the Regent manual:

IMPORTANT: Short route LATCH installation must
be used for children 40-80 lbs. See long route for
children 22-40 lbs.

So if Nissan says to refer back to Britax, then doesn't that mean that latch can be used up to 80lbs as long as the short route is used?

And with this warning:

WARNING! Use vehicle belt (not LATCH connectors) for installations
with children weighing more than 48 pounds (21 kg). Refer to the
vehicle owner’s manual or contact the vehicle manufacturer for the maximum
weight rating for their lower anchors. Unless specified otherwise by the vehicle
manufacturer, assume a 48-pound child is the vehicle LATCH anchor limit. Always use
the Versa-Tether® when installing for a child weighing more than 50 lbs.(22.6 kg)

As long as the Versa-tether is being used, then it seems to me that it's fine to use the latch.

Ogreenlee · Jan 9, 2008

I just got off the phone with Britax. The lady wasn't all that helpful, but anyway....

She said that no matter what.. the latch cannot be used after 40lbs. period.

So, if the Nissan Quest (the van i drive) isn't fit to use the SBP, then I'm outta luck.

So frustrating.

azgirl71 · Jan 9, 2008

Ogreenlee said:
Ok, this applies to me, too...
This is copied from the Regent manual:
So if Nissan says to refer back to Britax, then doesn't that mean that latch can be used up to 80lbs as long as the short route is used?

As long as the Versa-tether is being used, then it seems to me that it's fine to use the latch.

No you cannot use LATCH to 80 lbs. The warning is clearly states you not to use LATCH for a child weighing more than 48 lbs.

The tether you can make a parental decsion to use the top tether past 48 lbs since it is not being used to to secure you car seat. You must have a tight seatbelt or Lower anchor (which ever applies to you) installation before attaching the top tether. The top tether is designed to help reduce forward head excursion in a crash not to keep your car seat installed. If it fails you seatbelt or lower anchors are already holding your car seat in. If you use lower anchors to install and your child is past the 48 lb limit then you are putting endangering your child. The lower anchors could fail and your top tether will probably not hold your car seat in since it is not designed to do so. This could cause your carseat go flying out of the vehicle with your child.
Hope this make sence to you.

azgirl71 · Jan 9, 2008

Ogreenlee said:
I just got off the phone with Britax. The lady wasn't all that helpful, but anyway....

She said that no matter what.. the latch cannot be used after 40lbs. period.

So, if the Nissan Quest (the van i drive) isn't fit to use the SBP, then I'm outta luck.

So frustrating.

It is 48 lbs per Britax manuals and she is correct. Lower anchors could fail if used past 48 lbs.

Ogreenlee · Jan 9, 2008

So my other options for 5pt harness to 80lbs is the Radian80. I guess I should be lowering my weight limit to 65lbs, huh? I'll have more options.

alexysmommy · Jan 9, 2008

Ogreenlee said:
Ok, this applies to me, too...

This is copied from the Regent manual:

So if Nissan says to refer back to Britax, then doesn't that mean that latch can be used up to 80lbs as long as the short route is used?

And with this warning:

As long as the Versa-tether is being used, then it seems to me that it's fine to use the latch.

yes, you can use latch IF you know what the limit is on your car, and it is over 48lbs. It clearly states that the 48lbs is a guideline to use IF you dont know what your limits are. But if there is no limit stated in the manual, you should go by the 48lbs...maybe call the car company, and see if they can give you a specific number?

Ogreenlee · Jan 9, 2008

I just found this on the Nissan website. I hope it helps everyone who owns one.

http://www.nissanusa.com/snugkids/

Thanks to everyone who helped me!

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