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    Question Coccoro Conundrum

    My nephew currently rides RF in a Combi Coccoro. I chose these seats for my car as well as his grandmothers due to the compact nature and space saving in our respective Mazda3 vehicles. The seats I have are a 2016 manufacture date and reflect the 25lb body insert weight limit. The upcoming problem is that Baby Shark is 29” at 6.5 months and only has about half an inch to grow before hitting the 1” height limit with the insert. Has Combi spoken out at all about the increased weight limit from the previous models or am I going to have to discontinue use and buy a different seat already?
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    Re: Coccoro Conundrum

    I'd call them and talk to them about it.

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    Re: Coccoro Conundrum

    Thank you for responding Wendy. I will give them a call for sure, I just figured someone else would have had the same question along the line and the answer might be known already
    Kristin.
    Auntie to Baby Shark (6.5 months 28" 18lbs) RF in a Combi Coccoro
    Driving a 2013 Mazda3 5-door

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    Re: Coccoro Conundrum

    I followed this for some time and there was never a definitive statement from Combi, as far as I know. I made the parental decision to go ahead and take the insert out when I felt that the harness fit was better without it (and when my kids were heavy enough to meet the 15-pound threshold for removing the insert in the original Coccoro manual, though our manual is one that says 25 pounds). My younger child is a peanut and hit 36" before he hit 25 pounds.

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    Re: Coccoro Conundrum

    Quote Originally Posted by oakster View Post
    I followed this for some time and there was never a definitive statement from Combi, as far as I know. I made the parental decision to go ahead and take the insert out when I felt that the harness fit was better without it (and when my kids were heavy enough to meet the 15-pound threshold for removing the insert in the original Coccoro manual, though our manual is one that says 25 pounds). My younger child is a peanut and hit 36" before he hit 25 pounds.
    I am going to try and phone them tomorrow and talk to someone, but I'm thinking that is what I will do as well. He has so much more room above his head without the insert, the seat is basically almost unusable for us at this point with it in. I'm wondering if the change in the manual has anything to do with the recall that added the plastic plate to the bottom of the seat?
    Kristin.
    Auntie to Baby Shark (6.5 months 28" 18lbs) RF in a Combi Coccoro
    Driving a 2013 Mazda3 5-door

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    Re: Coccoro Conundrum

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliNanny View Post
    I'm wondering if the change in the manual has anything to do with the recall that added the plastic plate to the bottom of the seat?
    No, ours was a 2012 model, so predated the recall by some time but already had the 25 pound rule. If I remember, the manual had been changed shortly before that and had previously read "required to 15 pounds, optional from 15-25 pounds, and then must be removed at 25 pounds," which makes far more sense to me. However, I also don't make my child buckle his LATCHed-in booster when it's not in use even though the manual says you're supposed to because this also seems illogical to me, so take my advice with a big grain of salt.

    I'm curious to hear what Combi says, even though we no longer have our Coccoro.

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    Re: Coccoro Conundrum

    I spoke to someone at Combi who identified herself as a CPST (Taneka) and she couldn't answer for me weather the seat had passed testing without the insert at lower weight limits, only that it worked "best" at 25 lbs

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    Re: Coccoro Conundrum

    I half suspect the issue is that they ran the crash testing for the 12-month dummy with the insert in, and thus can't say anything one way or the other about how the seat would perform without it for that weight. But who knows. I'm sorry they didn't have a clearer answer for you. That particular issue (and the lack of resolution around it) was a huge frustration for me over the time we had the seat.

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