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    Middle back row 07 Van Saturn (GMC) FF seat install problems

    I want to install an FF Dorel ('10 Alpha Omega Elite Deluxe 3 in 1 All Terrain) in the back row of my 07 Saturn minivan (same as the Pontiac Montana or the Chevy Venture). The only FF anchor in the back/rear row is in the middle, but the area for a seat there is very narrow between the seat belt and the buckle, and where the top of the seat belt comes out of the back of the seat.
    I can get a tight install when the car seat is pushed all the way back, but it is simple to slide the front of the car seat forward a bit and then it's really sloppy.
    Is this just not a seat that can go here? My Safety 1st Complete Air of the same vintage is wider at the base and cannot fit there.
    The child riding is at the top for the seat FF, but could ride in it as a booster if he had to. He is too small for the Britax high back booster the other child riding in the rear row outboard position is in (necessary because it needs a head rest behind it and there's no headrest in the middle).
    I considered the Britax Frontier since this child isn't ready to sit still in a booster, but don't want to fork the $450 CAD if it won't fit in the rear row.
    I have photos to show the install.


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    Re: Middle back row 07 Van Saturn (GMC) FF seat install problems

    You're trying to buckle a booster next to it, correct?

    I would try a Graco Tranzitions/Wayz (same seat/different retailers) or an Evenflo Sureride. The Graco is narrow overall; the Sureride is wider, but sits up on a super narrow base.

    Alpha Omegas should never be used as boosters. Their belt fit is terrible.

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    Re: Middle back row 07 Van Saturn (GMC) FF seat install problems

    Yes, trying to buckle a booster next to it.

    When I'm installing the Alpha Omega, I've been shoving the car seat back so the back of the carseat is flush with the vehicle seat and the bottom is not flat, then it has room to slide forward on the slippery seat and have the bottom flat and be sloppy. Should I be installing the car seat with just the back of it touching the vehicle seat and the seat bottom flat? Or do I need to use a towel or something?

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    Re: Middle back row 07 Van Saturn (GMC) FF seat install problems

    I'll defer to a tech on that. But the Alpha Omegas are really wide. Given that the kid you want to put in it is at the limits of the harness anyway, I would look for something else.

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    Re: Middle back row 07 Van Saturn (GMC) FF seat install problems

    Any suggestions on a narrow harness seat that would last us longer?
    The highest slot is 17.5" (and we are almost at that).
    Child is just 40 lbs, 44" tall; really long in torso and really short thighs.
    With thanks!




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    Re: Middle back row 07 Van Saturn (GMC) FF seat install problems

    The Sureride has some of the tallest top harness slots on the market. Only the Britax combination seats are taller, and not by much.

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    Re: Middle back row 07 Van Saturn (GMC) FF seat install problems

    Quote Originally Posted by lgenne View Post
    The Sureride has some of the tallest top harness slots on the market. Only the Britax combination seats are taller, and not by much.
    Thank you for the recommendation. The sureride installed excellent in that awkward spot. I can't get my HBB beside it, but a LBB will work fine. Or a small adult.


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    Re: Middle back row 07 Van Saturn (GMC) FF seat install problems

    Hooray!

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