It's this allowed?

lourdes · Nov 26, 2015

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lourdes · Nov 26, 2015

This are cloth wipes, the harness keeps marking her neck

Nedra · Nov 26, 2015

Hmmm...they look quite thin, but my guess would be that they are not "allowed." It's this weird grey area where, if you posted a picture of her wearing a flannel shirt of that same thickness with the collar up, I think it would be totally fine. If you sewed the ends of those cloth wipes together to make homemade strap covers, I'm fairly certain it would be forbidden. So . . . I guess if it were me I would be looking at thrift stores for some cheap collared shirts that she can wear in the car seat. I don't know that it would be actually different from what you've done here, from a safety standpoint, but you would be following the rules and setting a good example for other parents who might not be quite so careful with the thickness of the material.

I am not a tech, though. I wonder what your CPST instructor would suggest if you sent this picture to her/him?

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lourdes · Nov 26, 2015

I am a tick but I don't know.... It's super thin, the main problem is that we lived in the tropics so we don't ware polo shirts to often, to me it's like if she had a shirt and I just pulled the shirt up but still that's to me, there are more experience techs here, I was also thinking of buying a polo shirt and cutting the half of the shirt and using it just in the seat but still don't know if that's ok

Carrie_R · Nov 26, 2015

I guess my major concern with it in this situation is that we've explicitly been told this seat doesn't pass testing with covers.

I'd just tug up whatever she's wearing to protect her neck, I guess. Maybe phone Dorel and see if they have any suggestions.

lourdes · Nov 26, 2015

I had called Dorel and they just told me to use polo shirts.....

ketchupqueen · Nov 26, 2015

If dorel told you only clothing on the child I'd probably stick with that rather than adding an extra layer of loose cloth in case it affects the forces in play.

Baylor · Nov 27, 2015

While it may not be allowed, I don't see how anything that thin would effect anything. It is the difference of wearing a tshirt and a sweatshirt which is okay.. so for me while I would never tell other people to do things that are not allowed, I have to be rational about such things. If my child is miserable or being cut by the straps, I am going to cover them. I have used socks before.. Thin with the toes cut off not anywhere near what a strap cover thickness is.

Just my nickel and a half.

cookie123 · Nov 27, 2015

Could you get her a few collared shirts that she could wear in the car seat? Rather than a polo shirt how about a button up thin cotton. You could just slip it on her and not bother with the buttons.

ketchupqueen · Nov 27, 2015

Baylor said:
While it may not be allowed, I don't see how anything that thin would effect anything. It is the difference of wearing a tshirt and a sweatshirt which is okay.. so for me while I would never tell other people to do things that are not allowed, I have to be rational about such things. If my child is miserable or being cut by the straps, I am going to cover them. I have used socks before.. Thin with the toes cut off not anywhere near what a strap cover thickness is.

Just my nickel and a half.

Adding socks, non approved covers, or other pieces of fabric not attached to the child's body between child and harness can increase rotational force at the shoulders. In this case Dorel initially sent out strap covers then crash tested it and stopped doing so. That says a lot to me about it affecting performance, whether you or I can imagine how it does or not.

gigi · Nov 27, 2015

I would buy a seat with strap covers if it is possible financially. Otherwise I would dress the baby in different clothing (polos or a cotton button up you can slip on and off as necessary).

TechnoGranola · Nov 27, 2015

ketchupqueen said:
Adding socks, non approved covers, or other pieces of fabric not attached to the child's body between child and harness can increase rotational force at the shoulders. In this case Dorel initially sent out strap covers then crash tested it and stopped doing so. That says a lot to me about it affecting performance, whether you or I can imagine how it does or not.

:yeahthat: This isn't the same as clothing that is on the child. I would only be okay with this if there was a model of the same seat that had strap covers. Seeing as this one doesn't past crash testing with them, there is no way I'd add anything that mimicked them.

Brigala · Nov 28, 2015

What about putting something like this on the child?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/WalterDrake-White-Blouse-Dicky/39798094

joolsplus3 · Nov 28, 2015

Brigala said:
What about putting something like this on the child?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/WalterDrake-White-Blouse-Dicky/39798094

OMG, I'm dying, totally read the first couple posts and thought, We Need a Carseat Dicky! Here's a bunch of others, and anyone is welcome to steal the idea for Etsy, lol https://www.google.com/search?tbm=shop&q=dickie&gws_rd=ssl#gws_rd=ssl&spd=0

AllieK · Nov 28, 2015

Yeah, I've totally considered the car seat dickey but in So Cal when it's 105 degrees there's no way I'm wrestling that on an angry toddler that doesn't want to get in the car seat in the first place!

No harness pads is a total deal breaker for me. If the SureRide didn't allow Maestro pads I wouldn't own 2 of them. I didn't buy the Contender for this reason either, I could never get a straight answer from Graco about whether or not they'd allow the Clone pads. The NEXT had never even been on my radar, mostly because my kids are tall but again, no harness pads!

I guess there's kids out there that don't care...? But mine are topless or in tanks 3/4 of the year so it's always an issue.

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Nedra · Nov 28, 2015

joolsplus3 said:
OMG, I'm dying, totally read the first couple posts and thought, We Need a Carseat Dicky! Here's a bunch of others, and anyone is welcome to steal the idea for Etsy, lol https://www.google.com/search?tbm=shop&q=dickie&gws_rd=ssl#gws_rd=ssl&spd=0

Me too...I've been musing about a dicky collar for the car seat throughout reading the posts! Lol.

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LISmama810 · Nov 28, 2015

Theoretically speaking, what about a bib? One of those wide, squarish ones.

Someone needs to trademark "car seat dickie."

Do we actually know that the seat doesn't pass with strap covers? I've heard that as speculation, but I don't think I've ever actually seen a statement about it.

Frankly, if a seat's safety can be compromised so much by the addition of a thin piece of fabric, I probably wouldn't be comfortable using it with my kid at all.

ketchupqueen · Nov 28, 2015

Dorel reps told that to at least a few people. Techs who asked about the change.

Fabric not attached to the child is actually a really easy way to make a lot of seats fail. See: some Graco seats requiring removal over 40 lbs. Etc. Like I said, all about rotational force.

I wouldn't be shocked if it actually did ok rf but not ff. But I can see them making a blanket disapproval in that case...

tjham · Nov 28, 2015

Wow, $8.99 for the dickie. If I were to go that way, I would buy a button up shirt at Goodwill to cut to size instead.

1mommy · Nov 28, 2015

AllieK said:
I guess there's kids out there that don't care...? But mine are topless or in tanks 3/4 of the year so it's always an issue. Posted via Mobile Device

My 3.5 year old hates all strap covers and rips them off at first opportunity or complains loudly if he can't. I've noticed sometimes his neck looks a little red after being in his maestro in just a short sleeved shirt but he doesn't seem to care, *shrugs* he's weird, he also HATES the headwings in the Maxi Cosi Pita 70. Maybe it's a sensory issue.

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