Incognito

tl01

New member
Is the bottom of this booster totally smooth? Do you think there's any way you could harm a vehicle seat with it? My dad got a new car and is a slight bit whacky... (As he had always been about cars) and he thinks that giving my son rides in his nb turbo booster is going to harm his seats. I would like a seat that I know won't create any issues. The bubble bum is a nightmare with my son in it.
 
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wendytthomas

Admin - CPST Instructor
Staff member
It's smooth enough. It's not going to harm anything. It's literally foam with some belt paths on it.

Wendy
 

SafeDad

CPSDarren - Admin
Staff member
The Incognito is as harmless to vehicle seats as the BubbleBum. Both are very light weight and neither one has hard plastic or sharp edges to gouge or scrape vehicle seats.
 

tl01

New member
So maybe this is a super ridiculous question.... The belt guides... How do they stay in the foam in a crash?
 

SafeDad

CPSDarren - Admin
Staff member
Not ridiculous at all!

I do not know how strong the attachment is, but as with any booster, the guides are only there to serve as pre-crash positioners. If the guide on any booster rips or breaks during a crash, it shouldn't matter as long as it had positioned the belt correctly prior to the crash.

Plus, the straps for the lap belt guide seem a bit longish to me, perhaps it just wouldn't move enough to pull them off? I also found it to to fit quite as well as the BubbleBum in our cars, but still acceptable. I could guess that for kids closer to the minimum rating, the more likely fit could be an issue? Hard to say until we see more feedback!
 

Qarin

New member
In a crash (or, well, any time really), an unLATCHed booster, occupant, belt guides, and seatbelt will be moving together, until the movement of the occupant and the strength of the locked seatbelt cause the seatbelt to stretch- at that point the booster and the occupant continue to move together with the stretch of the seatbelt. I can't think of what forces would cause the booster guides to be held back while the seatbelt moves away from it in such a way as to break the guides, at least not during the primary crash motions.
 

tl01

New member
Not ridiculous at all!

I do not know how strong the attachment is, but as with any booster, the guides are only there to serve as pre-crash positioners. If the guide on any booster rips or breaks during a crash, it shouldn't matter as long as it had positioned the belt correctly prior to the crash.

Plus, the straps for the lap belt guide seem a bit longish to me, perhaps it just wouldn't move enough to pull them off? I also found it to to fit quite as well as the BubbleBum in our cars, but still acceptable. I could guess that for kids closer to the minimum rating, the more likely fit could be an issue? Hard to say until we see more feedback!

In a crash (or, well, any time really), an unLATCHed booster, occupant, belt guides, and seatbelt will be moving together, until the movement of the occupant and the strength of the locked seatbelt cause the seatbelt to stretch- at that point the booster and the occupant continue to move together with the stretch of the seatbelt. I can't think of what forces would cause the booster guides to be held back while the seatbelt moves away from it in such a way as to break the guides, at least not during the primary crash motions.

That makes sense Qarin... I just know that the screws are so important on a TB.... and those armrests are the guides...I was just thinking that the guides would be important on the Incognito. Also, I would think if they did break, then the belt would move up on the child which does seem dangerous but maybe the booster won't experience that sort of force.
 

Qarin

New member
That makes sense Qarin... I just know that the screws are so important on a TB.... and those armrests are the guides...

I might get excommunicated for this but... I'm no longer actually convinced the screws are so important on the Turbo Booster. Of course, I use them, and I let people know about them, but my armchair analysis brings me to think their presence is not actually relevant.

I was just thinking that the guides would be important on the Incognito. Also, I would think if they did break, then the belt would move up on the child which does seem dangerous but maybe the booster won't experience that sort of force.

Once the crash has started and the belt has locked, there's no reason why the pre-crash positioners (including those lap belt guides, chest clips, a vehicle's own shoulder belt guide, etc) can't magically vanish- the belt should stay where it was on the occupant.
 

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