Clek Foonf pics and questions

mykidsmylife · Apr 26, 2013

So the lock off broke on the Foonf. Oops. I am trying to get in touch with Clek, will they just send a new lock off out? I know it is tested without it.

I know there was talk on rear-facing tethering it. Is it allowed or not as the manual does not reflect this. If allowed, is it even beneficial with having the rebound bar?

Anyways I really think that was it. This thing is so heavy, I was not expecting that but we love it. She has so much more leg room rear-facing. I have it in the center of my 2010 Kia Soul. I wanted it by the door (it still fits with plenty of room for front seat passenger) however the Frontier would not fit center and Johnathon will not use his booster in the center so this is how it is.

I was expecting it to block my view but it does not. It is a very interesting seat and I have a feeling I will be getting a lot of calls for help installing it.

Persimmon · Apr 26, 2013

That happened to another member:

http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=242561

I think they just sent her new ones.

As far as I know, no RF tethering. The Clek advocate should jump in soon for a real answer.

ETA: DD looks like a doll in the snowberry. It makes your car look so cheery.

Clek CPST · Apr 26, 2013

Please call customer service at 1-866-656-2462 and they will send you a replacement lock-off.

You're right that the seat can be installed without the lock-offs as long as you switch your seatbelt to ALR mode. The instructions for rear-facing seat belt installation are currently being revised to reflect the choice between using only one lock-off (closest to buckle being preferred,) or skipping the lock-off and switching the seatbelt to ALR.

Your daughter looks super cute in there. Snowberry is such a pretty color - bright and girly in just the right way.

edited to correct my original comment:
Rear tethering is allowed only when allowed by the vehicle manufacturer and when the tether is attached to a dedicated rf'ing tether anchor point. There is no D-ring available right now. The anti-rebound bar is providing rebound control so rf tethering is unnecessary.

crunchierthanthou · Apr 26, 2013

Clek CPST said:
Rear tethering isn't allowed with the Foonf. The anti-rebound bar is providing rebound control.

Since when? I thought in the US it was "contact your vehicle manufacturer...".

Clek CPST · Apr 26, 2013

crunchierthanthou said:
Since when? I thought in the US it was "contact your vehicle manufacturer...".

I'm double checking.

Clek CPST · Apr 26, 2013

Clarifying my original comment about rf tethering - and I updated my post as well.

Tethering rf'ing is allowed only when allowed by the vehicle manufacturer and when attached to a tether anchor designated for rf tethering. (So it is going to be only a very small subset of vehicles that would be allowed to do it.)

The anti-rebound bar makes rf tethering unnecessary though.

tiggercat · Apr 26, 2013

Clek CPST said:
Clarifying my original comment about rf tethering - and I updated my post as well.

Tethering rf'ing is allowed only when allowed by the vehicle manufacturer and when attached to a tether anchor designated for rf tethering. (So it is going to be only a very small subset of vehicles that would be allowed to do it.)

The anti-rebound bar makes rf tethering unnecessary though.

Can you use the designated TA from the seat in front? For example, Foonf in the 3rd row tethered to TA on back of 2nd row capt' chair?

Not that I'd want to, just curious.

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crunchierthanthou · Apr 26, 2013

Thanks for the clarification.

Clek CPST said:
The anti-rebound bar makes rf tethering unnecessary though.

Except can't the ARB only be used in position 3? What about rf in position 2?

Clek CPST · Apr 26, 2013

tiggercat said:
Can you use the designated TA from the seat in front? For example, Foonf in the 3rd row tethered to TA on back of 2nd row capt' chair?

Not that I'd want to, just curious.

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Only if explicitly allowed as a rf tether anchor point by the vehicle manufacturer

eta: The pull on a 2nd row anchor that would be placed on it by a rf'ing seat in the 3rd row would be different than the pull that a properly top tethered ff'ing seat installed in the dedicated seating position would exert. I definitely would not do it without the permission of the vehicle manufacturer.

crunchierthanthou said:
Thanks for the clarification.

Except can't the ARB only be used in position 3? What about rf in position 2?

The ARB can only be attached in position 3 but can be used in either of the allowable rf recline positions - 2 or 3.

If wanting to use recline position 2, then fully recline the seat to position 3 to attach the ARB and the Rear-Facing Base, then once they are installed you can shift the seat to recline position 2 and install it. :thumbsup:

At this point in time, the ARB must be used with all rear-facing installations. Position 2 and 3 are both allowed though. The current manual only reflects position 3 but owners will be told position 2 is ok if they contact customer service and the change will show up when the manual revision is finished.

Phineasmama · Apr 26, 2013

crunchierthanthou said:
Thanks for the clarification.

Except can't the ARB only be used in position 3? What about rf in position 2?

Pretty sure they approved the use of ARB in position 2 as well? You just have to put the ARB on while the seat is in position 3 and then switch.

crunchierthanthou · Apr 26, 2013

Clek CPST said:
The ARB can only be attached in position 3 but can be used in either of the allowable rf recline positions - 2 or 3.

If wanting to use recline position 2, then fully recline the seat to position 3 to attach the ARB and the Rear-Facing Base, then once they are installed you can shift the seat to recline position 2 and install it. :thumbsup:

Oh, good to know!

mykidsmylife · Apr 26, 2013

Thanks. I have called CS several times and left a message yesterday, still no call back. I will try again.

I assumed the rf tether was not necessary but I was just curious as I knew that it could be tethered rear-facing, I just did not know the stipulations.

Clek CPST · Apr 26, 2013

mykidsmylife said:
Thanks. I have called CS several times and left a message yesterday, still no call back. I will try again.

I assumed the rf tether was not necessary but I was just curious as I knew that it could be tethered rear-facing, I just did not know the stipulations.

Can you send me a PM or an email with your name and I'll check to make sure that your message was received? I know that there have been some intermittent phone problems so I'd like to follow-up if you can message me.

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