If a child weighed 38lbs naked...

zactayaus

Well-known member

• Feb 1, 2013

• #1

...would you be ok RF them in a seat with a 40lb limit if they still fit height wise?

 

TechnoGranola

Forum Ambassador

• Feb 1, 2013

• #2

What they weigh naked doesn't really matter. Why they weigh with typical clothing they'd wear in the seat does matter (the crash test dummies are clothed). So I'd reweigh.

 

aeormsby

New member

• Feb 1, 2013

• #3

No.

ETA - add clothes and a big meal (or end of the day) and that could easily add 2lbs.

 

SignCuer

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• Feb 1, 2013

• #4

Clothes on and reweigh.

 

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babyherder

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• Feb 1, 2013

• #5

Get a new seat

 

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HappyHoo

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• Feb 1, 2013

• #6

I kept an eye on my DS' weight fully clothed - checking fairly regularly until I saw that he hit 39.6 lbs with shoes on. I turned him FF in the car that had the 40 lb RF limit after that.

My DD I did the same thing - both of my kids tend to gain slow with a big jump a few times ea year. So I remember my DD getting close to the RF limit on her seat but then dropping a few oz and staying there for months before she hit a growth spurt and got within a few oz so I switched her.

 

bobandjess99

Senior Community Member

• Feb 1, 2013

• #7

Do people actually weigh their children naked? o.o ?? I mean, an infant, sure. But a big kid?

 

Phineasmama

New member

• Feb 1, 2013

• #8

Soooo is the crash dummy 40 lbs? With or without clothes? Because you'd think they wouldn't make a dummy that is like 38.5 lbs to account for clothing.

 

zactayaus

Well-known member

• Feb 1, 2013

• #9

bobandjess99 said:

Do people actually weigh their children naked? o.o ?? I mean, an infant, sure. But a big kid?

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My kids always weigh themselves when they are naked cause our scale is right by the bathtub. lol.

 

hope41more

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• Feb 1, 2013

• #10

zactayaus said:

My kids always weigh themselves when they are naked cause our scale is right by the bathtub. lol.

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Yup. This.

 

rachelandtyke

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• Feb 3, 2013

• #11

I'd reweigh with clothes and shoes on. My kids weigh themselves naked as well since the scale is in the bathroom.

 

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mommyfrog

Active member

• Feb 3, 2013

• #12

Phineasmama said:

Soooo is the crash dummy 40 lbs? With or without clothes? Because you'd think they wouldn't make a dummy that is like 38.5 lbs to account for clothing.

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I'd think that they make the dummies the specific weight they need to be and people add the clothes for fun. I don't worry about a few ounces. My ds was 38 pounds on our scale in his clothes and shoes, rode rf in his Radian with rf limit of 40 pounds, then was 40 pounds on my sister's scale when we got there 20 minutes later. I didn't stress it or turn his seat ff until he asked me to a couple days later. It was rf for my 2yo nephew and I didn't have time to turn it before we left!!

ETA: Wow...that was interesting to read. So I wonder how much the dummies weigh before they add the specific weights of clothes. Anyway, my point was that scales are different so I don't stress over a few ounces. I go by my scales at home, fully dressed with shoes. It weighs my kids the same as the scale at their doctor. My sister's weighs two pounds heavier than mine but the same as her doctor's.

 

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TechnoGranola

Forum Ambassador

• Feb 3, 2013

• #13

The dummy's clothing is not for fun. The total dummy weight includes the clothing and the clothing is quite specific with style/weight. Look at section S9 lower down on this page http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=571.213

 

hrice

New member

• Feb 3, 2013

• #14

With clothes on he is probably at the weight limit. Add in a good meal and he would likely be over. Unless you want to weigh him before every car ride I would FF him.

 

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jjordan

Moderator

• Feb 3, 2013

• #15

Assuming this is not just hypothetical, and it's in fact referring to the almost-4 year old in your sig, then absolutely I would turn around to FF immediately.

If it's hypothetical and we're talking about a (hypothetical) kid that is 2.5 years old, then I would re-weigh with clothes on and turn only when the weight was 40. And I might do crazy things like take off the kid's shoes in the car so I didn't have to include shoe weight.

 

ketchupqueen

CPST and ketchup snob

Staff member

• Feb 3, 2013

• #16

I'd weigh in clothing, but without shoes. You can always take shoes off in the car.

 

Phineasmama

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• Feb 3, 2013

• #17

TechnoGranola said:

The dummy's clothing is not for fun. The total dummy weight includes the clothing and the clothing is quite specific with style/weight. Look at section S9 lower down on this page http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=571.213

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Ok, I read that and I don't see where it says how much the dummy weighs naked. Like, if the clothing is .453 kg, does the naked dummy weigh 39 lbs or 40 lbs?

 

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mommyfrog

Active member

• Feb 3, 2013

• #18

There's weights for the Hybrid lll dummies on this page. http://www.nhtsa.gov/Research/Hybrid+III+50th+Percentile+Male The three year old is only 34.1 pounds.

Here's more info about dummies. http://www.humaneticsatd.com/crash-test-dummies/children

 

ketchupqueen

CPST and ketchup snob

Staff member

• Feb 3, 2013

• #19

They do some extrapolation, though. Dummies that are less than and more than the specified weights are used along with computer modeling and in some cases additional weight to determine parameters.

 

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DisneyWorldNanny

New member

• Feb 3, 2013

• #20

The day I weighed Olivia at 38.5lbs clothed I stopped letting her ride RFing in the SmartSeat. She had been 35lb clothed about 6 weeks prior and jumped.

She goes weeks without eating a ton and then gains in a week of stuffing her face. I knew she could gain 1.5lbs before the next time she rode in my car so I called it that day.

2 months later, she's still pissed.

...she's 4y, 5m old.