Booster and belt issue

tl01 · Jan 31, 2013

The location of the seat belt retractors is problematic for hbb in my car. The frontier 85 and oobr both get caught the way the belt is in the pic. The pwsg has bad belt placement on DS1 in this car. Can anyone think of a booster that might work with our shoulder belts? I would prefer a latchable booster.

Dillipop · Jan 31, 2013

What do the other belts in the back of your car look like? Are they all the same, coming out of the top of the seat? It's possible that since the belt is so low on the seat that most HBB's won't work in that seating position. A backless booster will probably work there or move the HBB to a spot where the belt comes out of the side of the car.

Judi · Jan 31, 2013

Yeah, that is what I said, but then I told her to start a thread, hoping there was something I wasn't thinking of.

Dillipop · Jan 31, 2013

Judi said:
Yeah, that is what I said, but then I told her to start a thread, hoping there was something I wasn't thinking of.

Great minds think alike!

The middle seat in my van (08 Sienna) has the belt coming out of the seat like that. My monterey fits there but with DS on the setting he needs, the belt goes up and over the back like pictured. I wasn't comfortable with that, so he now lives outboard where the belt comes from above the belt guide.

tl01 · Feb 1, 2013

Center third row the belt comes from the ceiling and outboard it comes from a more normal position. I really don't want him in the third row for lots of reasons. Including the fact that we travel and often stow rhe third row.
How does rhe ceiling belt do with boosters?

Phineasmama · Feb 1, 2013

Maybe the cruiserfix pro? It's one of the only thjngs that will work in my grand caravan where every other booster has belt retraction issues. The FR85 did not let the belt retract at ALL

glockchick · Feb 1, 2013

Phineasmama said:
Maybe the cruiserfix pro? It's one of the only thjngs that will work in my grand caravan where every other booster has belt retraction issues. The FR85 did not let the belt retract at ALL

That is so good to know! Everything I've tried except the TB does the same thing in my truck. I think I need one now...

CTPDMom · Feb 1, 2013

tl01 said:
The location of the seat belt retractors is problematic for hbb in my car. The frontier 85 and oobr both get caught the way the belt is in the pic. The pwsg has bad belt placement on DS1 in this car. Can anyone think of a booster that might work with our shoulder belts? I would prefer a latchable booster.

How is the belt fit in the F85 and Oobr without the belt guide in use? If it's ideal without the guide, you might ask them how they feel about using the seat without it.

This was the answer given to me by Diono's tech when their 'new' (now not the newest) belt guides came out and were incompatible in my car. I was concerned about using the seat this way, but he did have great fit without the guide. And it makes sense, all it is is a guide.

Just a thought.

tl01 · Feb 1, 2013

CTPDMom said:
How is the belt fit in the F85 and Oobr without the belt guide in use? If it's ideal without the guide, you might ask them how they feel about using the seat without it.

This was the answer given to me by Diono's tech when their 'new' (now not the newest) belt guides came out and were incompatible in my car. I was concerned about using the seat this way, but he did have great fit without the guide. And it makes sense, all it is is a guide.

Just a thought.

It's not good with either

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tl01 · Feb 1, 2013

So here it is in the back. I can't do the middle of the third row because it blocks my rearview.

The belt is unbuckled and not retracting. The belt retracts if you move the buckle closer to the retractor.

bnsnyde · Feb 1, 2013

What van do you have? We have the 2011 Odyssey. I thought you had that? Unless I remembered wrong.
We have the Oobr behind the passenger. Yeah, the belt does not really retract. I never really thought anything of it, but now that I do, I guess it's a bit of a pain. Update about asking why it should retract...(I should add that when he's in it it's fine; any normal movement he does causes no loosening problems). But it's still annoying that when he gets out it does not retract because too much slack and the seatbelt can lock and potentially get stuck around the seat if it retracts back, that sort of thing. I like him to start without slack if I remember to shove the belt back in.

In the 8th seat we have the Kiddyworld CruiserFix and it retracts. Awesome!!! It does make a bit of a blind spot, I suppose, but she's still kind of short.

cowgirlsmommy · Feb 1, 2013

Kiddy seats have a different type of belt positioner. Try those

tl01 · Feb 1, 2013

bnsnyde said:
What van do you have? We have the 2011 Odyssey. I thought you had that? Unless I remembered wrong.
We have the Oobr behind the passenger. Yeah, the belt does not really retract. I never really thought anything of it, but now that I do, I guess it's a bit of a pain.

In the 8th seat we have the Kiddyworld CruiserFix and it retracts. Awesome!!! It does make a bit of a blind spot, I suppose, but she's still kind of short.

I should ask why does the belt need to retract? The Oobr was our first booster so that's the only experience I've had. He tightens the belt a lot after buckling. I'm just curious why the belt needs to retract. I figured all seats were like that, lol.

I have a sienna now. It needs to retract because if a child moves at all while we are in motion then the belt doesn't retighten and it would be loose in a crash. I'm going to try the kiddy cruiserfix and hope we have enough space in it. DS1 is a pretty good size kid.

luckyclov · Feb 1, 2013

It probably won't help you much because that's a FR85 and not a PWSG/L, but when I had my Sienna ('11), DS1 rode in the center of the 3rd row in a PWSG and it was a great fit. You learn to work around the big bobblehead staring at you in the rear view mirror.

I think we've "talked" about his before, but the shoulder belts in the "regular" captains chairs come from the vehicle side wall not the vehicle seat, so it's a lot more booster friendly.

Time for a new car.

ETA: Just noticed your siggy, you do have a PWSG. Ding, ding, ding -- I say try that in the center 3rd row.

Judi · Feb 1, 2013

Yeah, I told her to buy a new car too.

tl01 · Feb 1, 2013

luckyclov said:
It probably won't help you much because that's a FR85 and not a PWSG/L, but when I had my Sienna ('11), DS1 rode in the center of the 3rd row in a PWSG and it was a great fit. You learn to work around the big bobblehead staring at you in the rear view mirror.

I think we've "talked" about his before, but the shoulder belts in the "regular" captains chairs come from the vehicle side wall not the vehicle seat, so it's a lot more booster friendly.

Time for a new car.

ETA: Just noticed your siggy, you do have a PWSG. Ding, ding, ding -- I say try that in the center 3rd row.

I don't love the belt fit if the pwsg and I need to see out the back to be safe. I become apprehensive without a good view for freeway driving.

bnsnyde · Feb 1, 2013

Ok, not sure about the Sienna.

In my van I notice the belt does not retract after he gets out of the car (just hangs there somewhat), at least it does not retract perfectly like the Kiddyworld one. But normal movement in his booster does not cause it to be loose. I have never seen it become at all loose, so it does seem to retract in that sense. Always nice and tight across his body.

The Oobr belt fit is really good on him (just no leg support). But I really like Kiddyworld's design!

Frenchgirl · Feb 2, 2013

My Monterey doesn't retract neither in this position (outboard passenger side '10 Sienna). I'm following this thread with interest!

toothdoc78 · Feb 16, 2013

This is the same issue I'm currently having with my '11 Sienna - did you end up trying the Kiddy booster? I think I might give it a shot, but would love some feedback.

tl01 · Feb 16, 2013

toothdoc78 said:
This is the same issue I'm currently having with my '11 Sienna - did you end up trying the Kiddy booster? I think I might give it a shot, but would love some feedback.

The Kiddy booster did not work out for us. The peg booster worked with the retractor but it didn't work with our headrest and the headrest is required. The parkway sgl was the only latchable booster I could get to work. I didn't try the new Graco latchable booster bc my guess is my son is already too tall for it. The belts in my car are really spectacular

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