Question Infant seats using seatbelt install

shinaynay17 · Dec 22, 2012

I have a radian rfing in my vehicle and 2 graco infant seats all in the middle row. My 2 gracos have the base installed but today I had to move the one into the back seat because I was taking a friend and her 2 kids with me. I got the scenera in the backseat just fine rfing and with a great install. I then went to put her infant seat in. She has a cosco juvenile? I think that's what it was. It's one of the ones I've always hated cause you adjust the straps from the back

I was reading the side of the car seat and it said to have the lap portion of the belt through the straps and the shoulder portion around the back of the car seat. Not sure if I was doing something wrong but I could not get that shoulder belt around the back of the seat. It said with a lap belt just to tighten the lap belt on but unfortunately I don't have any. I put the lap portion on and tightened it so there was less then 1 inch of space to move that car seat and I locked the seat belt. I'm just wondering what the reason behind putting the shoulder part behind the car seat is and if I was absolutely wrong for doing it the way I did??

Jessica61624 · Dec 23, 2012

This thread talks about it better than I can explain.
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=124413

When the seat belt is too short you'd install like most other infant seats with the lap portion thru the belt guides on the base and the shoulder belt locked and laying across the back seat.

ketchupqueen · Dec 23, 2012

Yep. I love ”Euro routing” (that's what we call it) on infant seats because it makes installing tightly so easy without the base! It gives you another option. So if the belt is too short you install without doing it, but if you can it can help a lot with secure installation! I got a ride with a friend whose car is awful for car seats. Tried it center back, belts too short but impossible to install securely. Tried it outboard and the belt was longer and it worked great! She had never seen such a quick install in that car, even the Nautilus can be a pain in there.

Pixelated · Dec 23, 2012

Is there direction in the manual or on stickers giving a belt routing different from the Euro one? I haven't looked at one in a while but I recall there being only the Euro routing for a lap/shoulder belt, and no alternative if the belt was too short. My response then is the seat is incompatible baseless in that seating position. I wouldn't route a non-Euro way unless Dorel gives permission for that, myself.

ketchupqueen · Dec 23, 2012

The manual gave alternate instructions last I checked. That may be a change.

Pixelated · Dec 23, 2012

ketchupqueen said:
The manual gave alternate instructions last I checked. That may be a change.

Ah, good to know. I haven't seen one in a while, and I doubt there was a manual present.

shinaynay17 · Dec 23, 2012

Yeah I was hoping I could install it the same way I did with my infant seats. It's nice to know that I didn't do it wrong. I guess I'll need to find a vehicle with long seatbelts to install her car seat with. I had just never heard of installing a car seat like that. Very exciting!!

snowbird25ca · Dec 24, 2012

Pixelated said:
Is there direction in the manual or on stickers giving a belt routing different from the Euro one? I haven't looked at one in a while but I recall there being only the Euro routing for a lap/shoulder belt, and no alternative if the belt was too short. My response then is the seat is incompatible baseless in that seating position. I wouldn't route a non-Euro way unless Dorel gives permission for that, myself.

I don't remember when it was changed now, but it was changed quite a few years ago. The stickers on the seat will show lap/shoulder diagrams both with and without euro routing now and the manual is specific about euro being preferred but the other acceptable if the belt isn't able to reach.

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