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    2009 Kia Rondo, 3 Across

    Hi. My husband and I are expecting our third son in September and want to know what we should purchase to accomodate all three boys in the second row of our 2009 Kia Rondo. Our older sons will be 6.5 and 4.25, so will require boosters, not carseats. We are willing to start from scratch but have a Chicco keyfit infant carseat and one Britax Parkway booster seat on hand. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Re: 2009 Kia Rondo, 3 Across

    Actually, your four year old should be harnessed. *If* a booster fits, your six year old is fine in one, but often in a tight three across situation we recommend a harness. That way you're not scraping the back of your hand trying to buckle and unbuckle a bunch of times a day.

    How much do your kids weigh? Also, is it a Parkway SG or an older style Parkway? Right now I would think the Parkway on the single buckle side, then four year old in the middle (I'd get a Radian, with the idea of passing it down to the baby and buying a very very narrow booster in a year or so), then the Keyfit. If that doesn't fit, try the Keyfit in the middle.

    If that doesn't fit, I'd see if your six year old fits in the Radian and buy another if necessary.

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    Angela tastad has figured several 3 across in her Rondo.
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    Re: 2009 Kia Rondo, 3 Across

    Quote Originally Posted by wendytthomas View Post
    Actually, your four year old should be harnessed. *If* a booster fits, your six year old is fine in one, but often in a tight three across situation we recommend a harness. That way you're not scraping the back of your hand trying to buckle and unbuckle a bunch of times a day.

    How much do your kids weigh? Also, is it a Parkway SG or an older style Parkway? Right now I would think the Parkway on the single buckle side, then four year old in the middle (I'd get a Radian, with the idea of passing it down to the baby and buying a very very narrow booster in a year or so), then the Keyfit. If that doesn't fit, try the Keyfit in the middle.

    If that doesn't fit, I'd see if your six year old fits in the Radian and buy another if necessary.

    Wendy
    Thanks for your response. My older son is about 44.5" and 44 lbs. My younger son is just about 40.2" and 40lbs, but the baby's not due until September, so I expect they will grow a little by then. I am not sure if it is an SG or not, but it looks like the SG Onyx. We purchased it new in 2010, if that helps. Would it be possible for me to put my older son into something smaller/narrower, to make up for the bulk of wider harnessed booster? How long would my younger son need to be harnessed?

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    Re: 2009 Kia Rondo, 3 Across

    I have an '07 Rondo.

    I've done:
    Passenger - Middle - Driver
    Nautilus (harnessed) - Cybex X-fit - Snugride 22(baseless) --- Cybex booster left buckled. That may work for you - I think the keyfit is narrower than the Snugride?

    Nautilus (harnessed) - Radian (FF) - Cybex X Fit (Maybe if the Cybex was replaced w/ a RF seat?) I was able to buckle / unbuckled the booster in this configuration. PITA though.

    RF Marathon - RF Recaro Signo - FF Radian. (I think this *might* work also w/ a Nautilus in place of the RF Marathon)

    You can fit almost anything in the "40" seat...it's getting 2 seats to fit in the "60" part that is tricky. Buckling a booster w/ almost any combo of seats is very difficult IME. (although I haven't tried most of the boosters out there, only used the Cybex in a 3 across, so I'm not sure if others might be easier?)

    Radian is not compatible RF in the center, but works well outboard either direction. I also had issues w/ the Radian coming loose when installed (by itself) FF in the center. I'm not certain if that was the carseat / vehicle seat combo or something I was doing wrong w/ the install.... but I moved it over to the side quickly. For the single trip that I had it in the center of a 3 across it stayed fine.... For everyday use between two other seats you might not notice so quickly if it does come loose.

    Cannot fit 2 Nautilus' next to each other on the "60" side, or a Nautilus with an AOE.
    Also cannot fit 2 Nautilus and one FF Radian in any combo. Too wide to shut the doors.


    Generically, minimum for a booster is 4 yrs and 40 lbs. But it very much depends on the maturity of the child... I'm not one to generally recommend "harnessing forever" (above those minimums) but... my 5.5 yr old boy is still in a harness. After I fully planned to have him in a booster once he outgrew the Nautilus harness (He was a few months shy of 4, and 41 lbs, when we bought it). BUT -- it's way too easy for him to get out of the belt. He rides well *most* of the time. Unless he's tired. Or cranky. Or doesn't want to go wherever we're going. Or he's bored, the ride is too long, etc. Then he'll duck under the shoulder belt, lean over into the seat next to him (even over armrests), or down into the floor area. OR just slide way forward so his bottom is at the front of the booster & the lap belt way up on his abdomen.


    ANother consderation on that, the Rondo seatbelts just don't work well w/ many boosters. The buckle stalk is just the perfect length to land right on the edge of the belt path on many (Nautilus, Cybex, TB) and *in* the seat in the case of the harmony literider. Just marginally ok w/ the Cybex but not really....

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