Question Designer 22 queation.

HaileysMommy · Apr 30, 2012

I need to know appropriate handle positions for in the car please! Dom 2007 Not sure if it has changed in recent years or not.

jacqui276 · Apr 30, 2012

I had a Designer 22 purchased near the end of last year and it states to have the handle in the upright position in the car.

HaileysMommy · Apr 30, 2012

Anyone else?

kae · Apr 30, 2012

I had one in 2006 and I'm pretty sure the handle hand to be down in the car.

MomToEliEm · Apr 30, 2012

The Designer 22 used to require the handle to be down. They made a retroactive change a few years ago though and now it can be up or down. I am trying to find the link but can't seem to find it (and of course the manual isn't online to view).

Here is a link discussing the handle position where it was mentioned it can be up or down.
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=103165

HaileysMommy · Apr 30, 2012

MomToEliEm said:
The Designer 22 used to require the handle to be down. They made a retroactive change a few years ago though and now it can be up or down. I am trying to find the link but can't seem to find it (and of course the manual isn't online to view).

Here is a link discussing the handle position where it was mentioned it can be up or down.
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=103165

If its down does it need clearance or can it touch? And thank you so much.

MomToEliEm · Apr 30, 2012

From reading this post, it appears that Evenflo Infant Seats are the only ones that require at least 1.5" of clearance.
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=179908
The other seats may allow them to touch the front seat provided that the vehicle allows it. Some newer vehicles with advanced airbags may have limitations against anything touching the front seat.

HaileysMommy · Apr 30, 2012

Thank you!!!!!

jacqui276 · Apr 30, 2012

This is from my Designer 22 manual that is copyrighted in 2010 (from the seat that I bought fall 2011):

HaileysMommy · May 1, 2012

jacqui276 said:
This is from my Designer 22 manual that is copyrighted in 2010 (from the seat that I bought fall 2011):

Interesting...

ketchupqueen · May 1, 2012

Canadian Dorel infant seats changed to require the handle up. In the US, it may be in any locked position.

HaileysMommy · May 1, 2012

ketchupqueen said:
Canadian Dorel infant seats changed to require the handle up. In the US, it may be in any locked position.

Thanks again!

MomToEliEm · May 1, 2012

jacqui276 said:
This is from my Designer 22 manual that is copyrighted in 2010 (from the seat that I bought fall 2011):

Thanks for that info. I updated the measurements/data spreadsheet to include both the US and Canadian info for the handle.

truckerswife · May 1, 2012

my Designer 22 DOM 11/2011 says handle can be used in any locked position position when installed in the vehicle

Pixelated · May 1, 2012

MomToEliEm said:
Thanks for that info. I updated the measurements/data spreadsheet to include both the US and Canadian info for the handle.

If you're doing that, note that the handle rules have changed for most Canadian seats that are crash tested to the newest 2012 crash test standards. This is not a complete list by any means (nor am I 100% confident in it because I'm going on memory and not looking at manuals), but for example the newest Snugrides require the handle to be up, the Evenflos are in anti-rebound position, Via is in anti-rebound, etc. etc. The only one that must be down is the Baby Trend.

To further complicate matters these new rules apply to the newest seats, and are not typically retroactive to older versions of the same seats. So for example a Snugride 35 with a DOM of 2010 would allow A, D, or E in the car, but a 2012 seat (and when I say that I mean a seat tested to the 2012 standards even if it has a late 2011 DOM - is your brain hurting yet?) REQUIRES it to be up. So...not sure what you want to do with that information with regards to the spreadsheet...

jacqui276 · May 1, 2012

ketchupqueen said:
Canadian Dorel infant seats changed to require the handle up. In the US, it may be in any locked position.

I didn't realize that it was different between Canada and the US. Good to know!

HaileysMommy · May 2, 2012

Pixelated said:
If you're doing that, note that the handle rules have changed for most Canadian seats that are crash tested to the newest 2012 crash test standards. This is not a complete list by any means (nor am I 100% confident in it because I'm going on memory and not looking at manuals), but for example the newest Snugrides require the handle to be up, the Evenflos are in anti-rebound position, Via is in anti-rebound, etc. etc. The only one that must be down is the Baby Trend.

To further complicate matters these new rules apply to the newest seats, and are not typically retroactive to older versions of the same seats. So for example a Snugride 35 with a DOM of 2010 would allow A, D, or E in the car, but a 2012 seat (and when I say that I mean a seat tested to the 2012 standards even if it has a late 2011 DOM - is your brain hurting yet?) REQUIRES it to be up. So...not sure what you want to do with that information with regards to the spreadsheet...

My brain just exploded lol

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