Help me find a study...

Carrie_R · Mar 25, 2012

I read a study, once, which despite relatively decent google-fu I cannot for the life of me find. Of course I didn't bookmark it at the time.

What I recall from this is some case studies of crashes -- I think it was a foreign study but I don't think it was the Volvo study that we're familiar with. (If it is I'm missing the part I'm looking for!) What sticks out in my mind is the case of a fatal accident with a five-year-old girl in which it was concluded that she would have survived if she'd been RF.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I've never seen anyone discuss it anywhere and I can't find it so I'm beginning to wonder if I misread something or made it up or...?

Thanks in advance.

crunchierthanthou · Mar 25, 2012

I know which one you mean. Look in the tech forum.

or was it in the articles? I remember the firm conducting it was in England.

Carrie_R · Mar 25, 2012

Thanks! I'll dig around in both of those forums.

crunchierthanthou · Mar 25, 2012

who has the best google fu? that's right. I do.

http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=49789

http://www.anec.eu/attachments/ANEC-R&T-2008-TRAF-003.pdf

although, I may have been slightly off saying the firm was in England. It was based on UK fatal accident data...

christineka · Mar 25, 2012

Aw, too bad I didn't read this quicker. I have the study bookmarked. While I whole heartily believe rfing is safest, I question the methodology of the study. Some of the ffing kids were in shield boosters, which we know are unsafe and inappropriate for 3 year olds anyway.

Carrie_R · Mar 25, 2012

Shield boosters, like the Dorel Grand Voyager, or shield boosters, like the Kiddy seat?

If that's included in the study, just ignore me, lol.

Thank you!!

christineka · Mar 25, 2012

Like the Dorel. The ffing kids were in the US and the rfing kids in Sweden.

Carrie_R · Mar 25, 2012

Thanks, just looked it over. Except I'm not finding the case with the 5yo. So confused. (lol)

christineka · Mar 25, 2012

Carrie_R said:
Thanks, just looked it over. Except I'm not finding the case with the 5yo. So confused. (lol)

The 5 yo is the last one.

Eta- must have been one of the last ones... Or I remembered wrong. I see the last was a 5 month old.

The 5 and 3/4 year old is mentioned in the UK area, which doesn't have crash data listed. It's in section 5.1, which I apparently can't copy.

Carrie_R · Mar 26, 2012

I'm reading that as a 5.75 month old baby. I had to read it a couple of times, but it doesn't make sense that it would be kids ranging from 5y and 3/4m to just under 4... Especially since the study focuses on kids 3 and under, kwim?

So now I'm wondering if I misread this study some time ago and classified that child as 5y in my mind or if there was another study. I'm really leaning toward the latter, because I recall there being some detail to the case study (incl the child being female) which there is not here. Or maybe I'm just going mad, lol! But I distinctly remember being shocked at her age and that finding, since I'd never seen a case study where rf had been considered significant for a child older than 4, kwim?

christineka · Mar 26, 2012

Carrie_R said:
I'm reading that as a 5.75 month old baby. I had to read it a couple of times, but it doesn't make sense that it would be kids ranging from 5y and 3/4m to just under 4... Especially since the study focuses on kids 3 and under, kwim?

So now I'm wondering if I misread this study some time ago and classified that child as 5y in my mind or if there was another study. I'm really leaning toward the latter, because I recall there being some detail to the case study (incl the child being female) which there is not here. Or maybe I'm just going mad, lol! But I distinctly remember being shocked at her age and that finding, since I'd never seen a case study where rf had been considered significant for a child older than 4, kwim?

I see that now too. I read that study forward and backward when it came out and I thought there was a just turned 5 yo as well. Perhaps we're both crazy.

Help me find a study...

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