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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Grrrr, I wonder why Diono is telling people that their radians meet the new standards, when in fact, even though they do to some degree, they really don't?

    Guess I'll be calling again tomorrow!
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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Permission to crosspost list?

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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Bumping to ask...

    I saw a My Ride at Sears the other day. I didn't see the DOM but it looked like the ones in the pictures from the ABC expo. Could it be compliant given that at the same store I saw a clearance MR?
    Emi 19 months! RFing in mama's Onyx Marathon, daddy's Streamer My Ride and Sarah's Asterisks Scenera

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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Do you remember what pattern it was? Did the top portion look different? I am curious. Hmm...if you are there again maybe secretly take a pic of it and post!

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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Saw an August 2011 HB Turbo today that is compliant according to the sheet the lady at Canadian Tire was using to pull seats.

    The Apramo backless at CT is compliant.

    Emi's Mommy, was it one of these My Rides? http://www.gracobaby.com/Products/Pa...ductID=1813074
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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Think I wrote this on another thread already.

    Diono told me in an email that the SKJP booster was *fine through 2012*. I explicitly replied asking if that meant it was 2012 compliant, or not and they didn't answer me. Really, my RN is fine too, but not compliant...unless it said 22# FF and I missed it...

    tam

    They said:
    "The Monterey boosters are fine through 2012. There has been a minor change to the shoulder belt guide of the Diono Monterey."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeanh
    Emi's Mommy, was it one of these My Rides? http://www.gracobaby.com/Products/Pa...ductID=1813074
    Yep that's it. So it was compliant then?
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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    do we know if the designer 22 seat are compliant?

    And thanks for the list and all the info you've given Trudy!

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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Quote Originally Posted by Emi's Mommy View Post
    Yep that's it. So it was compliant then?
    Has to be. That's the first I've heard of that version being in Canada.
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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Quote Originally Posted by Emi's Mommy View Post
    Bumping to ask...

    I saw a My Ride at Sears the other day. I didn't see the DOM but it looked like the ones in the pictures from the ABC expo. Could it be compliant given that at the same store I saw a clearance MR?
    Did it look any different at the front of the seat? Possibly higher at the edge that would contact the vehicle seat back when rf'ing?

    From what has been said about final testing and almost ready I'd expect they had to change something - but I really don't know for sure.

    I haven't heard anything about if new MR's are shipping - would sure be nice if they were though - did you happen to catch the DOM on it?
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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Have there been any news on the Peg Preggo infant car seats? I am looking at a used one that is for sale but don't want to buy it if it doesn't meet the new standards.


    Quote Originally Posted by snowbird25ca View Post
    This thread may remain a work in progress, but due to the number of people expressing confusion and wanting a concise list, I'm going to put together a quick reference list by brand. There are a few seats that I can't give precise information on, but I have info on most brands.

    Baby Trend: Production changed in the neighborhood of the 19th to 26th of September, 2011. I can't recall what the date is, but I believe there weren't any made for a little while before that.

    Britax:

    Production date change was near the end of July I believe. In the case of all the infant/child seats, the minimum ff'ing weight limit has increased from 20 to 22lbs. So any seat reflecting a 22lb minimum ff'ing limit and walking unassisted is 2012 compliant. The Frontier XT production changed at the same time I believe, I'm not sure about the infant seats although I believe that all of the B-Safe seats meet new standards.

    Chicco Keyfit: Sept 21 is the DOM on our display at work. There is no labelling on the seat stating the handle is required to be up, but the pictures show the handle up and the manual has numerous red box warnings in it indicating that the handle must be in the carry position when in the vehicle, so this will be the defining factor.

    Cosco/Dorel/Safety 1st

    Infant Seats:

    Maxi-Cosi - handle required up in car is compliant, if it isn't required up, it's not compliant
    On Board/Sure Fit - I'm not sure the exact date change. There are some that required the handle up but weren't compliant to new standards - or weren't shipped as compliant anyways. I think they've been compliant since around May or so. If I have a chance to check the book at work I'll be able to tell you exactly how to differentiate compliant and non-compliant - they changed something with the placement of the little maple leaf and number code on the side stickers of the seat.
    Designer 22 based seats - Don't know about this one or if it will be available as a 2012 compliant seat or not.

    Infant/Child seats:

    This one may be a gray zone on the Scenera based seats - there aren't any physical modifications made to the Scenera shell and I haven't seen the manual for the seat we carry based on the Scenera. If it says walking unassisted in it then that will be the defining difference.

    Complete Air : 2012 compliant models
    - now has an adjustable base on all models
    - ff'ing weight limit raised to 65lbs
    - walking unassisted clearly stated as a requirement for ff'ing both in the manual and on the stickers of the seat.
    - dual line recline indicator.
    - change in shape at the front of the seat. (I will be posting pictures of the difference between old and new shape in a blog post once I get the review of the updated Complete Air 65 seat done for carseatblog.com - preliminary view can be seen on the unboxing video. http://carseatblog.com/15975/canadia...ible-unboxing/

    Infant/child/booster seats: 2012 compliant models
    - the elite models had the "tabs" for adjusing the harness height changed from red to gray
    - rf'ing weight limit is raised to 40lbs, ff'ing weight limit raised to 65lbs
    - have dual line indicators.
    - recline handle has been changed to gray (used to be red)
    - shell is visibly different at the front edges where a child's hands would rest
    - walking unassisted clearly stated as a requirement for ff'ing both in the manual and on the stickers of the seat.
    - rf'ing height limit raised to 36"

    Child/booster: I don't know what changed with the summit - nothing obvious and again, I haven't seen the manual because our store has started putting manuals in security bags and storing them in a drawer... If they have put walking unassisted in these manuals, that will be the defining factor. (They probably have given that the complete air and 3in1's all have it.)

    Booster seats: I'm not sure about these

    Diono:

    All Diono branded seats are compliant.

    Evenflo:

    Infant seats:
    - All Secure Ride 35 and Embrace 35 are compliant, no seat with a "z" handle is compliant.
    Infant/child seats, infant/child/booster, and child/booster seats:
    - If the minimum ff'ing weight limit is 22lbs, it is compliant.
    Booster seats:
    - I'm not sure about the date change for their booster seats.

    First years/Lamaze:

    Infant Seat: Via 35 - compliant
    Infant/child: No current True Fits are compliant. Compliant stock hasn't arrived in stores yet.
    Booster seats: Not sure about this one

    Graco:

    Infant seats:
    SR30 (not the safeseat, the actual snugride 30 model.) - all SR30 are compliant.
    SR35 - handle required up in vehicle will be the biggest indicator. A sticker on one side of the handle reflects the requirement. Shape at the front lip of the seat has changed as well. Minimum weight limit on compliant seats is 4lbs.
    SR22 - 2012 seats must have the handle left up in vehicle. Seats which allow A, D, or E aren't compliant to 2012 standards.

    Infant/child seats:

    My Ride: At present, no existing stock is compliant. I don't know what we'll see when the compliant MR shows up.
    Comfort Sport: Not sure about this one. If it is passing, the ff'ing weight limit will have to be increased to 22lbs.

    Child/Boosters:
    Nautilus: Ff'ing weight limit increased to 22lbs.
    Not sure if the Cargo will still be around - if it is, the minimum ff'ing weight limit will be increased to 22lbs.

    Boosters:
    Turbobooster: I don't know the date change on these. I can check the dates on our seats at work and come up with an approximate time frame, but it won't be precise.

    Peg Perego: I'm not sure on this one. The 30/30 is definitely compliant once it arrives. There's the possibility that the 22lb seat is compliant given that it hasn't been clearanced yet.

    Sunshine Kids:

    No Sunshine Kids branded seat is 2012 compliant. Some passed by crash testing but not by labelling or manuals.

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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse & Hunter's Mom View Post
    Have there been any news on the Peg Preggo infant car seats? I am looking at a used one that is for sale but don't want to buy it if it doesn't meet the new standards.
    I don't know the date change for the Peg. I can tell you if it was made before June 2010 it's definitely not compliant, and I suspect any 2010 DOM isn't compliant but I can't be totally sure on that.

    Ideally you don't want to buy a used seat anyways due to the unknown factors. You don't know how the seat has been treated, whether it's been in a collision, if it's been dropped, etc.

    Often times people are selling their used seats for more money than you could buy a different brand new. If you're not attached to having a Peg infant seat, then I'd choose something else that was within your budget to buy new.

    One thing to consider about the peg, is prior to 2011, they only had 5 year expiry dates, so the seat isn't good for as long as other brands. They tend to be a fairly heavy carrier as well.

    Please feel free to start a new thread if you'd like some suggestions about selecting an infant seat. My apologies for the delay in reply - between the forum upgrades and New Years day things have been a bit slower on the forums than usual.
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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Updated original post.
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    Both safely riding in either a 2007 Outlook or a 2015 Subaru Legacy depending on the day.


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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    do you have an exact date on the onboard infant seat yet? I keep forgetting the month of DOM on mine, all I know is it's a compliant seat with a 2011 DOM and is rated 4-22 pounds with a handle up requirement in the car.

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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    I've updated the OP for Graco model # info.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanIsleMommy View Post
    do you have an exact date on the onboard infant seat yet? I keep forgetting the month of DOM on mine, all I know is it's a compliant seat with a 2011 DOM and is rated 4-22 pounds with a handle up requirement in the car.
    I don't have an exact date. I know the manual revision on compliant seats was end of October. You could check your manual to see if that's your revision date or if there was another revision made since then?
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    Jillian - 11 yrs, 80'ish lbs, 5-stepping in each car. :O
    Jonas - 8yrs, 65lbs, Riding in an Oobr in each car.
    Both safely riding in either a 2007 Outlook or a 2015 Subaru Legacy depending on the day.


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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    so no myride seats with a DOM before 2012 are compliant? I was looking at my myride the other day and it has a sticker on it stating the FF minimum is 22 pounds AND walking unassisted. I beleive it is a 2010.

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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Quote Originally Posted by VanIsleMommy View Post
    so no myride seats with a DOM before 2012 are compliant? I was looking at my myride the other day and it has a sticker on it stating the FF minimum is 22 pounds AND walking unassisted. I beleive it is a 2010.
    Some manuals had that before they tested to the new standards. I don't now if the DOM is 2012 on the new ones, but they'd be late 2011. The model number will start with an 18 if it's compliant.
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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    I'm bumping to be a pain and ask if post #1 can be updated again. I know you can get compliant True Fits now and I think there might be more info on some seats. If memory serves I think Pixelated had some precise dates from Dorel? If I actually had any of the info in my head I'd post it here, but sadly, I do not. I'm just being a leech.

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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkyd View Post
    I'm bumping to be a pain and ask if post #1 can be updated again. I know you can get compliant True Fits now and I think there might be more info on some seats. If memory serves I think Pixelated had some precise dates from Dorel? If I actually had any of the info in my head I'd post it here, but sadly, I do not. I'm just being a leech.

    Thanks
    Unfortunately Safety 1st is now flip-flopping on that list that Pixelated was originally given.

    I know that I've updated the Graco, and Sunshine Kids (Monterey - we don't know what date that changed yet do we?)

    eta: I put in a few updates. I have been insanely busy the last few weeks so if someone notices specific updates, please post to the thread and I will happily update.
    Last edited by snowbird25ca; 02-08-2012 at 01:00 AM.
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    Re: Quick reference of seats compliant for 2012 and how to know

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkyd View Post
    I'm bumping to be a pain and ask if post #1 can be updated again. I know you can get compliant True Fits now and I think there might be more info on some seats. If memory serves I think Pixelated had some precise dates from Dorel? If I actually had any of the info in my head I'd post it here, but sadly, I do not. I'm just being a leech.

    Thanks
    The List you're talking about is here: http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=211964

    Dorel is being rather difficult about confirming or denying the accuracy of it. I think it was probably not supposed to be released, and it was just pure luck I got somebody at the right time who was willing to share. I'm kicking myself for not getting the CS rep's name, or more details, or being really leechy and asking her to email or fax it to me right then!
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