scatterbunny
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I was Googling info on the 86Y tonight and came across this issue of SafeRideNews from Sept/Oct 2001 about the 86Y used with a booster, and thought it was interesting. I wanted everyone's take on it.
Sorry for the way it pasted; all the run-on paragraphs/sentences.
So it makes me wonder, is using the 86Y plus a booster really a good thing? Have the tests with harness+booster with the 6yo dummy been done, and if so, what were the results? Can we find out?
Vest/Harness Confusion
Use of E-Z-On Vest & Harness
with Backless Boosters
not yet Recommended
E-Z-On Products has been interested inresponding to the need for a product to usewith lap-only belts in both passenger ve-hicles and school buses. The company’s“proper use” video issued last May rec-ommended using its E-Z-On Vest or 86YHarness with a backless booster for chil-dren aged 4–7. No particular brand ofbooster was mentioned. (Instructions forthe E-Z-On 86Y harness have includedthat recommendation for several years.) Inthe video, the 86Y Harness or 1086 cam-harness was recommended with a boosterin school buses for children aged 3–7.When seeking confirmation for such usefrom booster makers, SRN found none thatis ready to sanction vest or harness usewith its backless boosters. SRN alsosought but has not found FMVSS-213 testdata to support booster use with a harnessor vest. It would, therefore, be prudentfor advocates not to recommend the jointuse of these products until more is known.The certification of existing boosters orE-Z-On’s products, used alone, is not atissue here.So far, only one maker of backlessboosters, Car Seat Specialty, has tested itsboosters with the 86Y harness. Its testswere run with the 3-year dummy becausethe lower limit on its boosters is 30 pounds.These tests showed excessive chest accel-erations and, in a few cases, high HICs(head injury criterion). Car Seat Specialtyhas asked E-Z-On not to recommend thisuse of their Polo or Uno booster.The poor test results surprised manywho had assumed that the two deviceswould perform well when used together.In the early ‘80s, the first boosters sold inthis country met FMVSS 213 using a simi-lar booster/harness cofiguration.When asked by SRN, Evenflo said it hasnot tested its booster with E-Z-On’s prod-ucts. Cosco also has not run any tests, buta spokesman says it may do so soon.Recently, independent tests of the 86YHarness/booster combination were run atthe University of Michigan TransportationResearch Institute (UMTRI) to explorevarious installation configurations andcombinations. The results were not satis-factory with the 3-year dummy.
Connie Murray, president of E-Z-OnProducts, commented that children in pas-senger vehicles should be in regular CRsas long as possible. The 6-year dummywould be more appropriate for tests ofboosters with her vest or harness. Her rec-ommendation of the booster/86Y combi-nation on school buses starting at age 3 isto accommodate Head Start providers’needs. (See note on school bus testing,below.) Murray says E-Z-On plans to runmore tests, including some with the 6-yeardummy, in the near future.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache...tOct.pdf+86Y+harness&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us
Sorry for the way it pasted; all the run-on paragraphs/sentences.
So it makes me wonder, is using the 86Y plus a booster really a good thing? Have the tests with harness+booster with the 6yo dummy been done, and if so, what were the results? Can we find out?