Making kids safer, one question at a time.  Welcome to the Car-Seat.Org community!   Motor Vehicle Crashes are the #1 cause of fatal injury for children and adults, age groups 1 to 34.   Selecting a safe car, minivan or SUV, plus correctly using child restraints and seatbelts may be the most important things you can do to protect your family.   Need help installing an infant, convertible or booster seat?   Looking for carseat reviews or compatibility advice? Need help buying the best and safest car seats for your baby, toddler or older kid?   No question is a bad one, so please click here to ask our experts a question and then join our friendly community of moms, dads, caregivers and advocates in the USA and Canada.   Thank you for visiting; buckle-up and drive safely!


 

Sponsored Ads

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 16 of 16
  1. #1
    Unregistered
    Guest

    Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    I have been reading all of your posts for the last couple months... but I am yet to come to a decision.. My son is 3 yrs. 5 mos; 39 inches; and 40 lbs. Last month I bought the Safety 1st Signature Biltmore seat, which at first I liked, but I continue to dislike it a little more every day. First, the crotch strap is WAY too short... I had to take off the seat padding in order to strap him in without hurting him. Second, it is just so BIG, which I can't really complain, because I have a big kid, and he fits in it (besides the crotch strap issue). Anyway, we need a second seat anyway (for dh car) but if I can find a seat I like better I will move the Safety 1st to dh car and put the new one in mine (ds is in my car 90% of the time). I was looking into the FPSV and the Radian 65 (I considered the Britax Regent, but with the FP seat being made by Britax, I can't see spending the extra $$) So, as you can see from his measurements I have a good size child, (not chunky, just solid!) and I am worried that his butt won't fit into the seat, or if he fits now, he won't fit in it a year from now. BUT, since the FP only goes to 55 lbs, how long do you think I have before ds reaches that weight? So, I apologize for the rambling, basically I need to know the best seat for my "solid" child that will last us until he is ready for a seat-belt booster... Thank you for any help!! Oh, if it makes a difference, I drive a 2007 Jeep Wrangler (4-door).

    Crystal

  2. # ADS
    Sponsored Ads
     
     

  3. #2
    Admin - CPS Technician joolsplus3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Chesterfield, VA
    Posts
    21,249

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    The Regent is a MUCH larger seat than the FP, it costs more, but he would fit in it for many years longer than the FP. He'll probably outgrow the FP in a year, but the Regent in like 4 years (the weight isn't as important as the top slot height...the FP is the same, about, as the Safety First you have, but the Regent is like 4 inches taller).

    I know it's spendy, but it's definitely the seat you want to go with
    Julie
    CPST since 2003, pu"R"ple since 2008, three kids growing too fast since 1997, 1999 and 2006

    Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good

  4. #3
    Carseat Crazy PHaley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    355

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    I agree go with the Regent if you can afford it I will be buying one as soon as I can.

  5. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    19

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    The regent costs more, but will last YEARS longer. My 9yr old, who is far from small (75% for both height and weight) can fit in it easily. The Radian, despite measuring the same, can be (just barely) used by my DD but the FP and Apex can't. Still, I have to say if you're buying a seat buy the Regent. I sold things to afford it and I have NO regrets. I only wish I had a van big enough for 4 regents and a blvd...

  6. #5
    CPS Technician Connor's Mom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    ATX
    Posts
    986

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    I agree. I wouldn't by any of those and just go with the Regent. You will get more use for your money.
    Peggy, RN-Critical Care and Emergency Medicine, CPST and Mommy to Connor (2/05) in a Graco Highback TurboBooster with Safety Surround

  7. #6
    Carseat Crazy
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    155

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    My two and a half year old Daughter has the FPSVD and I LOVE the seat but she is 36# and 36 inches and her torso is 14 and 3/4 inches. She is already at the top slot on the FPSVD. I am thinking in less than a year I will have to move her to a new seat. I have only had the FPSVD for a few months.

    I have a Regent for my 6 year old son and he has plenty of room to go. Anyway what I am getting at is that I wish I would have got two regents instead of trying to save money, it really would have paid off.

    I bet you will love either seat, but for sure check torso length... I learned the hard way on that.

  8. #7
    Senior Community Member scatterbunny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    13,317

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    Without reading any other posts:

    My daughter was the exact same size as your son at the exact same age (actually, she was an inch taller and one pound less at 3 years, 4 months--just looked it up ).

    She would have outgrown a Fisher Price Safe Voyage Deluxe by height at her 5th birthday, at about 46 inches tall and 46 pounds (her weight has slowed down, her height growth stayed the same).

    She outgrew an Apex somewhere around 5-5.5, at about 47-48 inches tall (I tried her in one at about 5 years, 9 months--about 2 months ago--and she was over the top slots by a bit).

    I think she would just now be at the top slots of a Radian, at two weeks shy of her 6th birthday, 49 inches tall and 51 pounds. I can't be certain she's at the top slots, I haven't sat her in one to see, but based on how she fits other seats, it seems about right.

    In a Regent she still has at least two years to go. She recently moved into the top set of slots, but is probably still technically even with the second-to-top slots.

    Most seats are outgrown by height before weight. It's pretty rare for a seat to have top slots tall enough to get a kid to the full harnessed weight limit.

    The Regent isn't any larger than the Apex, size-wise, but it has much, much more harnessing capacity (probably 3 years more). Since you're already used to the Apex's size, I'd say definitely go for the Regent. I think at your son's size the FPSVD might be too cramped and might sit too high up (harder to climb into/out of than a seat that does not sit up on a base). The Radian is a nice seat because it sits low, has higher top slots than the FPSVD and Apex, but it can be difficult to install and has other quirks, like a harness that is bolted to the frame (can't remove it to clean).

    Here's a pic of my dd in the Husky (same as Regent) at 3 years, 4 months, 41 inches and 39 pounds:

    She had just been moved up to the second-to-top slots and had a fairly long torso for her overall height.
    ~Jenny

    "When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people." ~Abraham Joshua Hesche

  9. #8
    Carseat Crazy
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    515

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    IFirst, the crotch strap is WAY too short... I had to take off the seat padding in order to strap him in without hurting him.
    I read in a comment on Amazon.com that someone called Cosco about this, and Cosco replied that this summer they're going to begin making the Apex with a longer crotch strap. Maybe try calling Cosco to see if they will send you (free, I hope!) a replacement crotch strap? Then you could at least continue using the Apex as your spare seat, if you get a different brand for the main seat.
    DS1 - 7.5 yrs, 56 lbs, 50" - Compass B510 Booster or Graco Turbobooster
    DS2 - 5 yrs, 45 lbs, 41" - Britax Husky, Graco Nautilus, Compass B510 Booster
    DD - 17 yrs, newly licensed

  10. #9
    crysdez
    Guest

    Thank you everyone!

    Everyone,
    Thank you so much for all your help... You have made this decision much easier for me... I guess we will be headed to Babies R Us to buy a Regent this weekend ... I will keep you all updated on how it goes, thanks again!

    Crystal and Connor (who will be getting a new carseat very soon!! )

  11. #10
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    6

    months of research and found one, but $$$ is an issue

    I'm new here, but have been reading posts for a while now. You ladies have been very helpful to me. I have 3 kids and was looking only for my youngest who is 19 months. I came across the Kyle David site and wanted to put all of my kids in 5 point harnesses. I have a 3 1/2 year old and a 7 year old. My boys are big, but the baby girl is a little bit. My husband doesn't want to spend the money on a regent which I think is best for my boys since they're big. The 3 year old is 40.5lbs. and 42 1/2" and the 7 year old is 65lbs and 53inches tall. Do you think it's worth getting the regent for my oldest. I am no where near stores I am a military spouse and we're overseas so there is no stores to test carseats. I am a online shopper, not by choice.
    Am I crazy for wanting my oldest in a regent? Should I just settle and get the regent for my middle child and let the oldest stay in the Graco booster? I need some advice please.
    I ended up getting the scenera for my baby girl and I have to wait for it to come in the mail.
    I also have a Honda Odyssey, does anyone recommend using the plus one seat for the scenera with the regents on the sides of it.
    I've been researching for months and finally settled on one for my daugher, but now I want the regents and my dh isn't feeling the costs. It gave in and said it's ok for the 3yo, but he doesn't want to budge when it comes to getting the regent for our oldest.

    I don't know what to do I'm open to all comments.

    Ms. Safety

  12. #11
    Carseat Crazy
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    515

    Re: months of research and found one, but $$$ is an issue

    Quote Originally Posted by floalways View Post
    I'm new here, but have been reading posts for a while now. You ladies have been very helpful to me. I have 3 kids and was looking only for my youngest who is 19 months. I came across the Kyle David site and wanted to put all of my kids in 5 point harnesses. I have a 3 1/2 year old and a 7 year old. My boys are big, but the baby girl is a little bit. My husband doesn't want to spend the money on a regent which I think is best for my boys since they're big. The 3 year old is 40.5lbs. and 42 1/2" and the 7 year old is 65lbs and 53inches tall. Do you think it's worth getting the regent for my oldest. I am no where near stores I am a military spouse and we're overseas so there is no stores to test carseats. I am a online shopper, not by choice.
    Am I crazy for wanting my oldest in a regent? Should I just settle and get the regent for my middle child and let the oldest stay in the Graco booster? I need some advice please.
    I ended up getting the scenera for my baby girl and I have to wait for it to come in the mail.
    I also have a Honda Odyssey, does anyone recommend using the plus one seat for the scenera with the regents on the sides of it.
    I've been researching for months and finally settled on one for my daugher, but now I want the regents and my dh isn't feeling the costs. It gave in and said it's ok for the 3yo, but he doesn't want to budge when it comes to getting the regent for our oldest.

    I don't know what to do I'm open to all comments.

    Ms. Safety
    I haven't been able to get a good install with a rear-facing carseat in the Honda Plus One seat in my Odyssey (and it doesn't have a top tether hook, so it's not okay for a FF carseat. Maybe a narrow booster might fit there.) (In this respect, I think the Toyota Sienna does a better job allowing 3-across the middle row.)

    I have the two captain's chair together in the middle, with a Husky (earlier Regent model) behind the driver, and a rear-facing convertible seat in the other captain's chair. It's easy to access the 3rd row this way -- your oldest could ride in a booster 3rd row passenger side (or a Regent, if you get one). (Or the middle child could ride in his Regent in the 3rd row outboard passenger side, and the oldest could ride in a booster in the captain's chair next to the baby, if that works better.)

    I think your oldest would still fit in a Regent, but at that size and age (if it were me making the decision), I would be okay with a good belt-positioning high-back booster. If you're taking a lot of long trips and he sleeps in the car, then it might be worth getting the Regent, as it keeps the child in position better when they're sleeping (and looks a lot more comfy than sleeping in a booster!)

    Be sure to read the discussions about the new installation rules for Regents. There are also threads on which cars/seating positions people have/have not been able to get a good install under the new guidelines.

    Also, Recaro is coming out with the "Como" in August which harnesses to 70 lbs. I have no experience with this seat, but it looks like an alternative to the Regent for about the same price ($250). And there's always the Cosco (aka Safety 1st) Apex65, which is very affordable at $130, or the new Triumph Advance from Babies R Us or Wal-mart, which would work for either your 19-mo-old or 3-y.o.
    HTH!
    DS1 - 7.5 yrs, 56 lbs, 50" - Compass B510 Booster or Graco Turbobooster
    DS2 - 5 yrs, 45 lbs, 41" - Britax Husky, Graco Nautilus, Compass B510 Booster
    DD - 17 yrs, newly licensed

  13. #12
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    6

    thanks for the advice

    Thanks Crysdez for the imput you gave. It was helpful to me.

  14. #13
    Carseat Crazy
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Star, MS
    Posts
    266

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    Scatterbunny,
    Hayley is tall! Where do you find jeans to fit her? My Kaylan has always been tall and thin, but she was the same 46# 46" at her 6 year old checkup as Hayley was at 5. I see that Hayley is now 6 years old and 51# 49". Kaylan was 52# 48 1/4" at 7. They are right at 3 years apart too since Kaylan's birthday is June 11, 1998.

  15. #14
    CPS Technician bombedier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southern NH
    Posts
    649

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    floalways - I think we discussed over email (this is Laura from KDM foundation) - definitely a Regent for your 4 year old. Regent for your 6 year old would be safer, but you have to work on Daddy.

  16. #15
    Senior Community Member scatterbunny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    13,317

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyGirls View Post
    Scatterbunny,
    Hayley is tall! Where do you find jeans to fit her? My Kaylan has always been tall and thin, but she was the same 46# 46" at her 6 year old checkup as Hayley was at 5. I see that Hayley is now 6 years old and 51# 49". Kaylan was 52# 48 1/4" at 7. They are right at 3 years apart too since Kaylan's birthday is June 11, 1998.
    LOL--jeans are a problem! The best-fitting ones I've found are Gap Slim, but by their size chart's height and weights, she's too chunky for Slim (yeah, right). But Gap 8 Slim fit her very well. It's a hit-or-a-miss with other brands. Wal-Mart's Faded Glory Slims are a joke; even on the tightest setting they are too loose. The two pair she has now are just starting to fit in the waist and they're a good two inches too short. Most of the time we just have to buy them to fit the leg length and hope they aren't too big in the waist; she wears belts quite often, but hates them. When she was all torso with short little legs, it was easy, because I could buy jeans that fit in the waist and they weren't too short; now that she's all legs, it's difficult.
    ~Jenny

    "When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people." ~Abraham Joshua Hesche

  17. #16
    Carseat Crazy
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Star, MS
    Posts
    266

    Re: Fisher-Price Safety Voyage, Radian 65, or Safety 1st/Apex

    I love the adjustable waist at GAP. Their slims have always fit Kaylan well with the waist tightened up. We also had good luck with J. C. Penney's slim fits before she was big enough for GAP slims. GAP used to start slim sizes at 5. Now they have toddler slims! Of course shorts are not a problem. She can wear the same ones for years. Meredith is a bit shorter so I hope she'll be easier to fit.

    Sorry, folks. I know we are waaayyyy off topic!

Similar Threads

  1. Best price on Fisher Price Safe Voyage Deluxe?
    By scatterbunny in forum CAR SEATS - General Child Safety Seat Questions, Help and Advice
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 04-08-2007, 09:22 PM
  2. Radian or Fisher Price Safe Voyage
    By Unregistered in forum CAR SEATS - General Child Safety Seat Questions, Help and Advice
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 02-22-2007, 12:29 PM
  3. Fisher Price Voyager vs Safety 1st Apex
    By momstheword in forum CAR SEATS - General Child Safety Seat Questions, Help and Advice
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 12-28-2006, 09:07 AM
  4. Sunshine radian or Fisher Price Safe Voyage?
    By mandyk17 in forum CAR SEATS - General Child Safety Seat Questions, Help and Advice
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-12-2006, 05:42 PM
  5. fisher price safe voyage??
    By libertyusa in forum CAR SEATS - General Child Safety Seat Questions, Help and Advice
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-29-2006, 01:26 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •