New seats from Dorel?

LISmama810 · Jun 26, 2011

Looks like Dorel is working on some prototypes of seats that appear to be made entirely/mostly of EPP foam:

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/03/child-safety-seats-with-a-racing-pedigree/

http://mobile.kidstodayonline.com/a...ar_seat_technology_to_the_juvenile_market.php

christineka · Jun 26, 2011

Can you imagine the kids having a heyday picking their car seats to pieces? I hope dorel finds a way to make the foam inaccessible by children!

NannyMom · Jun 26, 2011

And how exactly does the foam hold the harness/child in?

Brigala · Jun 26, 2011

I would assume they would be covered with something. And there's probably some kind of frame to hold the harness in. How are race car seats built?

LISmama810 · Jun 26, 2011

Brigala said:
I would assume they would be covered with something. And there's probably some kind of frame to hold the harness in. How are race car seats built?

That's what I'm assuming, too.

It'll be interesting to see.

Judi · Jun 26, 2011

christineka said:
Can you imagine the kids having a heyday picking their car seats to pieces? I hope dorel finds a way to make the foam inaccessible by children!

Car seats have been recalled for similar situations. If they make sure the cover fits well, it should be fine.

Dillipop · Jun 26, 2011

The Safeguard Child Seat is a ton of EPS foam with a frame. I would guess the the Dorel seats will be similar, but with EPP instead.

LISmama810 · Jun 26, 2011

I thought the SafeGuard did use EPP? I don't remember it having that much, although I can't say I ever dissected it.

This one says the prototypes are really light, too, which would be very different from the SGCS. The weight was the only thing I didn't like about that seat.

joolsplus3 · Jun 26, 2011

Oh...I thought you were excited about the new Safety 1st Alpha Elites that just hit the shelves at BRU

(same seat, same child models showing poor harness and belt fit on the box, but finally more padding for infants and even big kids). (oh, weight limits rf40, ff65, booster 100, and it's finally ON the box and harness in readable sized fonts).

So there've been some all-foam boosters in the past. EPS and very frequently broken during normal use... this would be kind of interesting, if you've seen the inside of the Momentum, it's a LOT of EPP making it like a big Mork from Ork transport egg

LISmama810 · Jun 26, 2011

LOL, Mork from Ork.

Does the Teddy Bear count as an all-foam booster?

safeinthecar · Jun 26, 2011

Race car seats are generally built, in order from back to front: tubular metal frame-thin steal plating-energy management material-flexible durable shell (think of thick material like the bumbo)-upholstry

cookie123 · Jun 27, 2011

Didn't I already say car seats should be lined with Bumbo?

Cath3114 · Jun 27, 2011

Well, whatever they come out with, I hope it can be installed more upright than 45*!

I'm excited to see it, though. My RF AOE was recently replaced due to a crash, and I wanted a CA65. I got great customer service from Dorel, and felt comfortable sticking with them. Then I happened upon the angle drama on their FB. I went with an MA70 instead.

violets_mommy · Jun 27, 2011

joolsplus3 said:
Oh...I thought you were excited about the new Safety 1st Alpha Elites that just hit the shelves at BRU (same seat, same child models showing poor harness and belt fit on the box, but finally more padding for infants and even big kids). (oh, weight limits rf40, ff65, booster 100, and it's finally ON the box and harness in readable sized fonts).

So there've been some all-foam boosters in the past. EPS and very frequently broken during normal use... this would be kind of interesting, if you've seen the inside of the Momentum, it's a LOT of EPP making it like a big Mork from Ork transport egg

Yeah I saw those yesterday at BRU.

joolsplus3 · Jun 27, 2011

LISmama810 said:
Does the Teddy Bear count as an all-foam booster?

I think that's plywood and regular foam? Haven't seen one in awhile...
Jupiter Komfort Kruiser was the one I was thinking of, I think that poor company went under replacing foam parts for free.
Also the Galaxy/Ryde Rite (sp?) and Britax Cruiser, but those had better covers and less sticky-outy parts to snap off.

mommyfrog · Jun 27, 2011

I had two of the Jupiter all foam boosters. Two of my kids were in them in a crash. The kids came out fine but one of the boosters didn't. That was what convinced the insurance company to replace my car seats though. No airbags went off, the car wasn't drivable, but they didn't want to replace the car seats until I told them one of the boosters actually broke. Then they were all over it. I just never told them they were all foam!!

bobandjess99 · Jun 27, 2011

joolsplus3 said:
Oh...I thought you were excited about the new Safety 1st Alpha Elites that just hit the shelves at BRU (same seat, same child models showing poor harness and belt fit on the box, but finally more padding for infants and even big kids). (oh, weight limits rf40, ff65, booster 100, and it's finally ON the box and harness in readable sized fonts).
e:

damn Dorel and its names. I thought "alpha elite" was another name for the Apex? No? You are obviously describing a convertible. Is it an alpha omega elite? or are they now calling some convertibles alpha elites? And if so, why the hell? so now are we going to have people with alpha eiltes and not know if they are convertibles or combos(apexes) ???

christineka · Jun 27, 2011

bobandjess99 said:
damn Dorel and its names. I thought "alpha elite" was another name for the Apex? No? You are obviously describing a convertible. Is it an alpha omega elite? or are they now calling some convertibles alpha elites? And if so, why the hell? so now are we going to have people with alpha eiltes and not know if they are convertibles or combos(apexes) ???

I think it was Alpha sport elite that was another name for the apex.

joolsplus3 · Jun 27, 2011

bobandjess99 said:
damn Dorel and its names. I thought "alpha elite" was another name for the Apex? No? You are obviously describing a convertible. Is it an alpha omega elite? or are they now calling some convertibles alpha elites? And if so, why the hell? so now are we going to have people with alpha eiltes and not know if they are convertibles or combos(apexes) ???

Yeah, it's Alpha Elite for the convertible now. Crazy, right? Can't they get a new Greek letter?

Pixels · Jun 27, 2011

It's just like Graco with all the SnugRides, and Britax reusing their names for the new generation of seats. The company has already invested in name recognition, so if they can reuse the name, they see that as a good thing.

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