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I am not pleased...especially about the recline angle.
I am not pleased...especially about the recline angle.
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Safety 1st clarifies CA limits on FB
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njkj
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Re: Saftey 1st clarifies CA limits on FB
Safety 1st fans:
We realize that with the dialogue back and forth yesterday and conversations spread out among numerous posts, there may have been cause for confusion about our recommendations for proper installation of the Complete Air. Because of this, we want to clarify three areas for you:
Height limitation of the Complete Air: If you would like to rear face your child in the Complete Air, he or she must be 40” or under and their head must not reach past the top of the headrest. If your child is 40” but still has clearance to the top of the headrest, we cannot recommend that you use the Complete Air to rear face your child. Once your child has reached 40 lbs or 40" or if the top of your child's head reaches past the top of the headrest (any one of these criteria), we cannot recommend you use this car seat to rear face your child.
Recline Angle: When the level-to-ground line on the Complete Air is used correctly, the back angle and the level-to-ground line that is molded in the side of the car seat should be 45-degrees. If you cannot achieve this angle in your vehicle, we cannot recommend you use this car seat to rear face your child.
Clearance from the top of the shell: When rear facing your child in the Complete Air, we do not use the 1” clearance rule of thumb. Instead, we state you can use the seat up to the point that the top of the child's head does not go past the top of the headrest as long as your child is not over 40" or over 40 lbs. At this time, the 1" rule only applies to our infant car seat. It is a specific guideline to each manufacturer, not an industry standard.
It is our policy and CPS Curriculum to follow the manufacturer's written instructions. It is the case with all of our car seats (except the onBoard Infant Seat which has dual level positions),to use the level-to-ground line for all weights and heights while rear-facing, which is 45 degrees. We are in touch with our consumer relations department to ensure that all information provided to consumers is consistent.
We are committed to providing our consumers with good, solid information about our products and hope this helps clarify your questions.
Here you go
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Safety 1st fans:
We realize that with the dialogue back and forth yesterday and conversations spread out among numerous posts, there may have been cause for confusion about our recommendations for proper installation of the Complete Air. Because of this, we want to clarify three areas for you:
Height limitation of the Complete Air: If you would like to rear face your child in the Complete Air, he or she must be 40” or under and their head must not reach past the top of the headrest. If your child is 40” but still has clearance to the top of the headrest, we cannot recommend that you use the Complete Air to rear face your child. Once your child has reached 40 lbs or 40" or if the top of your child's head reaches past the top of the headrest (any one of these criteria), we cannot recommend you use this car seat to rear face your child.
Recline Angle: When the level-to-ground line on the Complete Air is used correctly, the back angle and the level-to-ground line that is molded in the side of the car seat should be 45-degrees. If you cannot achieve this angle in your vehicle, we cannot recommend you use this car seat to rear face your child.
Clearance from the top of the shell: When rear facing your child in the Complete Air, we do not use the 1” clearance rule of thumb. Instead, we state you can use the seat up to the point that the top of the child's head does not go past the top of the headrest as long as your child is not over 40" or over 40 lbs. At this time, the 1" rule only applies to our infant car seat. It is a specific guideline to each manufacturer, not an industry standard.
It is our policy and CPS Curriculum to follow the manufacturer's written instructions. It is the case with all of our car seats (except the onBoard Infant Seat which has dual level positions),to use the level-to-ground line for all weights and heights while rear-facing, which is 45 degrees. We are in touch with our consumer relations department to ensure that all information provided to consumers is consistent.
We are committed to providing our consumers with good, solid information about our products and hope this helps clarify your questions.
Here you go
!Re: Saftey 1st clarifies CA limits on FB
I literally JUST sat down at my comp and saw it come up on FB. I immediately ran here and posted
For DD, the 40" isn't really a problem. She's a peanut so I'm sure by the time she reaches 40" she'll be old enough to FF. The recline angle is another story though, I have no idea if that's actually going to fit in our vehicle. May need to move her over to the passenger side to achieve that, and I'm sure she's not going to be pleased about practically laying down.
I do wish they had clarified WHY exactly the recline angle was necessary, as well as the height issue. I love the seat, but all these limitations make me kind of regret the purchase. Had I to do it over again, I would have gotten her a MyRide.
Your faster than me
Clarification that I will NOT ever have a Ca
I literally JUST sat down at my comp and saw it come up on FB. I immediately ran here and posted
For DD, the 40" isn't really a problem. She's a peanut so I'm sure by the time she reaches 40" she'll be old enough to FF. The recline angle is another story though, I have no idea if that's actually going to fit in our vehicle. May need to move her over to the passenger side to achieve that, and I'm sure she's not going to be pleased about practically laying down.
I do wish they had clarified WHY exactly the recline angle was necessary, as well as the height issue. I love the seat, but all these limitations make me kind of regret the purchase. Had I to do it over again, I would have gotten her a MyRide.
Re: Saftey 1st clarifies CA limits on FB
The thing is, we've already got a 3-noodle tower underneath! Is it even safe to do more?
Hmmmm, looks like I will need to be fiddling with pool noodles...
Luckily the 40in does not come into play yet, but that recline sucks.
The thing is, we've already got a 3-noodle tower underneath! Is it even safe to do more?
smackeen
New member
Re: Saftey 1st clarifies CA limits on FB
I don't know what the limit would be. I have/had a great install without, but now I must go and uninstall and try to find the pool noodles where ever I placed them.
I don't know what the limit would be. I have/had a great install without, but now I must go and uninstall and try to find the pool noodles where ever I placed them.
Pixels
New member
Re: Saftey 1st clarifies CA limits on FB
Yes, you can do however many you need to get the proper recline.
Yes, you can do however many you need to get the proper recline.
InternationalMama
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Re: Saftey 1st clarifies CA limits on FB
This is such a disappointment. Because of this
We are going to have to stop using our Safety 1st Avenue to travel. I already use a 3-noodle pyramid just to get a decent recline angle and there is no way I could carry more. I also doubt it would fit in most cars we rent with front passenger room when reclined to 45 degrees.
I always happily ignored the recline angle line on the advice of techs here. I now regret advising others to do the same. Even though I still don't think it makes much sense, I think I will be vigilantly following manufacturer instructions from now on.
This is such a disappointment. Because of this
We are going to have to stop using our Safety 1st Avenue to travel. I already use a 3-noodle pyramid just to get a decent recline angle and there is no way I could carry more. I also doubt it would fit in most cars we rent with front passenger room when reclined to 45 degrees.
I always happily ignored the recline angle line on the advice of techs here. I now regret advising others to do the same. Even though I still don't think it makes much sense, I think I will be vigilantly following manufacturer instructions from now on.
gsdguenter
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Bummer :-(
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babyherder
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Re: Saftey 1st clarifies CA limits on FB
Does the angle thing include the scenera?
Does the angle thing include the scenera?
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