definition of 3-in-1 seat?

KaiLing · May 8, 2011

I was perusing the AAP guidelines, and they define a 3-in-1 seat as a rear facing seat:
"There are 3 types of rear-facing car safety seats: infant-only seats, convertible seats, and 3-in-1 seats. When children reach the highest weight or length allowed by the manufacturer of their infant-only seat, they should continue to ride rear-facing in a convertible seat or 3-in-1 seat."
(from http://www.healthychildren.org/Engl...000&nfstatusdescription=ERROR:+No+local+token)

But the Graco Nautilus is called a 3 in 1 seat and it's forward facing only. Who's wrong here, the AAP or Graco? I think someone should tell one of them that they're confusing the bejezzus out of people. If it's the AAP, someone needs to change that web page. If it's Graco... well... I don't know.

mommyfrog · May 8, 2011

Graco for sure!! The other 3in1 seats have been out and marketed as 3in1 for quite some time. Then Graco comes along and calls the Nautilus a 3in1 when it doesn't do the same thing as all the others. Which would be why I had to explain to a mom and grandma in Target the other day that they couldn't buy a Nautilus for their 9 month old. I told them it doesn't rf and they said "But it says it's a 3in1". Yeah, Graco should change their marketing. Just drop the 3in1 and call it a "combination" or "harness to booster seat".

sunnymw · May 8, 2011

Both are right... technically... since the nautilus is a harnessed seat, HBB, and backless booster.

But I.hate that they call .it a three in one. The smart seat really is the three in one

joolsplus3 · May 8, 2011

An awful lot of BRU shoppers return or seem really confused when they find out the Graco 3-in-1 doesn't RF. Even though it's in the *obviously labeled* 'Booster' section

I'd like to beat Graco with a wet noodle for using the term, it's really a pain :thumbsdown:

LISmama810 · May 8, 2011

Yeah, I'd say Graco threw the wrench in the standard definition of 3-in-1.

KaiLing · May 8, 2011

Aaargh. Of course on that same page they also say
"All children 2 years or older, or those younger than 2 years who have outgrown the rear-facing weight or height limit for their car safety seat, should use a Forward-Facing Car Safety Seat with a harness"

which I think is just unintentionally bad wording, but technically means that the AAP thinks your kid should be switched around on his 2nd birthday.

(People who grade papers for a living should not read websites, clearly.)

joolsplus3 · May 8, 2011

No, that's basically the wording. 2, unless you have a big kid in a tiny seat that outgrows it RF before 2 (like a 32 pound 18 month old in a ComfortSport)...they don't want to discriminate against seats that are on the market and/or not expiring for another 6 years with lower limits, and they don't want parents to misuse seats.

LISmama810 · May 8, 2011

joolsplus3 said:
No, that's basically the wording. 2, unless you have a big kid in a tiny seat that outgrows it RF before 2 (like a 32 pound 18 month old in a ComfortSport)...they don't want to discriminate against seats that are on the market and/or not expiring for another 6 years with lower limits, and they don't want parents to misuse seats.

I think she was commenting on the idea that kids should be turned at 2 (even if they haven't outgrown the seat).

PP, remember that we're dealing with people who don't even understand the importance of FF until 1, let alone 2. Even though it might not be absolute best practice, the clearer and easier-to-swallow the message, the better.

Plus, the AAP is working with data that shows benefits to 2, not beyond.

Ideally people will RF longer, but for now, I'm happy with that message for the general population. Baby steps.

KaiLing · May 8, 2011

That quote is buried. The wording is fine at the top. The thing most people will read says:
"All infants and toddlers should ride in a Rear-Facing Car Safety Seat until they are 2 years of age or until they reach the highest weight or height allowed by their car safety seat’s manufacturer."

I'm just being a compulsive paper grader.

Kat_Momof3 · May 9, 2011

graco made a 3-in-1 seat that didn't exist before... a 3-in-1 means what it says... it is 3 seats in one

the nautilus is a 3-in-1 because it is 3 seats in one... it is a harnessed seat, it is a highback booster, and it is a backless booster.

just as the safety 1st Intera (if you remember it) was a 4-in-1... it was a rearfacing harnessed seat, a forward facing harnessed seat, a highback booster, and a backless booster.

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