Any FF issues with the RN?

Chila88

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I have been following the SKJP threads a bit and am disgusted. I don't know anyone currently using one rf'ing, but do have several friends using them ff'ing for their older kids.

Are there any issues that have been brought to light with the seat(s) while ff'ing that I should make my friends aware of?
 
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Meg

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Re: Any FF issues with the RA?

I had an issue while the seat was FF last week, although, I don't know that it's related to the direction the seat was facing. The harness pulled straight out of the seat and didn't stay tight. Obviously it's a huge issue, but I don't know how widespread it is. At least 3 different people have reported the problem to the NHTSA since last month though.
 

Mae

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Erm ... Yeah.

I have my RNXTSL installed FF outboard with LATCH in my '04 Grand Am. It's been there since I got the seat, so a month or two. ETA: This makes it sounds like it's been installed there without ever moving. I mean that it's been installed here, and taken out, numerous times, and I've never noticed a problem. The seat itself has been installed *here* for maybe a week or so. This morning I had to drive an hour each way to go pick up a kid, the kid who would be using my seat.

I moved the crotch buckle to the outer most position because it's been getting in the way. I obviously didn't notice a problem with the install, and I had my arm in the RFing belt path to move the crotch buckle. I didn't notice anything.

We got home and the kiddo got out of the seat. I decided to try to move the headwings down just a tad, as they were up a bit too high for my liking.

The back of the RN pulled off my vehicle seat. :confused:

I was very leery to check for movement. There was several inches of movement in my seat.

My installs are rock-the-car solid. I know it's not because it was not properly installed to begin with. It was the darned superLATCH.

Why didn't I notice the looseness? The stupid rubber grips on the bottom of the seat. :thumbsdown:

Video:

YouTube - Radian XTSL SuperLATCH Loosening

Remember what I said? This is while I had a kid in the seat. For an hour drive. On the interstate. A FOUR lane interstate.




That entire thread has a list of people who are having problems, and they explain whether it's FF or RF.

Cars affected by SuperLATCH loosening - Video included.
 

Stelvis

New member
Mae -- great video by the way. Have you considered making the caption below on YouTube a little more explicit as to what is going on? My only thought is that to the uninitiated/untrained, it might be hard for someone to see that the seat continues to loosen the more you jostle it. It's great that it's getting so many hits!
 

Chila88

New member
Yikes..:eek:..I had read lots about kids feet losening the strap when rf'ing, so wasn't sure if the problems affected ff'ers.....obviously it still does! I will forward this thread to my friends....feel free to keep posting with additional issues.
 

Mae

Well-known member
it might be hard for someone to see that the seat continues to loosen the more you jostle it. It's great that it's getting so many hits!

Oh, it wasn't loosening more as I jostled it. There's seriously how much slack was in it ( :eek: ) I just had a hard time demonstrating the slack because of the rubber grips (likely the same reason I didn't notice the slack :rolleyes: ).
 

Stelvis

New member
Mae said:
Oh, it wasn't loosening more as I jostled it. There's seriously how much slack was in it :eek: I just had a hard time demonstrating the slack because of the rubber grips (likely the same reason I didn't notice the slack :rolleyes: ).

Oh, okay! Now I see! Ack that is scary.
 

Mae

Well-known member
I fixed the description. :)

I've also had that video as "only viewable to those with the link" because I hate linking my family to my videos and then having them see the Radian one :)o) but I made it public yesterday and have gotten over 150 hits today!
 

Stelvis

New member
Mae said:
I fixed the description. :)

I've also had that video as "only viewable to those with the link" because I hate linking my family to my videos and then having them see the Radian one :)o) but I made it public yesterday and have gotten over 150 hits today!

That's great! You're helping people stay safe! I'm glad that both videos are there, one FF and one RF, one loose on its own, and one caused by the child. It shows the spectrum of the problem.
 

Stelvis

New member
I tried and tried to make a new one to show DS actually in the act of kicking it...of course as soon as I told him it was okay and I wanted him to do it, he was no longer interested and refused for 20 minutes. ;)
 

gsdguenter

Well-known member
I'm really annoyed as I reported to NHSTA, called SKJP and emailed them (Kristin) with pictures and nothing has happened yet! I just haven't been using the seat it's been happening with - harness loosening, but what if I didn't have this luxury?!


I need to call again tomorrow, but I have to admit I am a bit discouraged and of course when the harness loosened on me I didn't have the video camera set up :mad: I'm terrified they will say something rude to me (I know it's my own insecurity, but still).
 

gsdguenter

Well-known member
I tried and tried to make a new one to show DS actually in the act of kicking it...of course as soon as I told him it was okay and I wanted him to do it, he was no longer interested and refused for 20 minutes. ;)

LOL, that was like me with my stupid harness: whenever I was set up to video it I couldn't get it to slip out, and when I was unprepared it malfunctioned :hitselfonhead:
 

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