sorry, i was in a rush and forgot to add any details, twins are 28months, 23 ish lbs but tall, no exact measurement atm, moderately long torso, Niece is almost 4, 29 ish lbs, a peanut all three are rear-facing. Twins have just started gaining weight and seem to be gaining quickly, they are tall for their age, DH is very tall as is ODS.
Three of these seats will go in my '06 dodge grand caravan (but i hope to buy an oddy next september-ish)
the other three will go in the nannies 6 seater Mazda.
Crash details; we were headed to the apple orchard, on a road with a 45mph sped limit. Dh and i in the caravan with the twins, Evan in the drivers side captain chair in a Signo G2, Liam in the third row passenger side in a Ma. The Fr which James usually uses was in the other captains chair and the radian was in the center rear. In the Mazda was the nanny, Patty, her adult daughter, Tricia, my ods and my niece. Ods, James was driver-side in the RSTV and Niece, Neveah was passenger side in a Como. in the third row there were the twins avenues.
The whole line of cars slowed, my DH slowed almost to a stop and we heard loud screeching as the man behind us tried to brake, I heard it coming and was pretty sure he was going to hit us, i think he must have ben going awfully fast to have been unable to stop, as we had not stopped quickly. He slammed in to the back of our van and we were thrown about 1/2 a car length in to the back of Patty's van. It was very loud, it sounded like loud breaking glass. As soon as we stopped moving, i took off my seatbelt and jumped out to check the kids.
I think it would be fair to say that at times i have a bit of a temper, not often but when i lose it, i lose it. I threw open the side door, Evan was hysterical but there was no blood or obvious injuries, i couldn't get the tailgate open to check Liam, at which point the man got out of his car, and i started screaming at him, like crazy mama bear screaming, DH ran over and got the trunk open, and tried to steer me away from the other driver, who was apologizing profusely while i screamed at him. Liam was upset but looked ok. A landscaper from the house we were in front of came running over and offered to call 911, dh agreed he should call. Evan was so hysterical i was sure something was very wrong, DH took his seat out of the car ( but not E out of the seat, as i had told him not to) and tried to comfort him.
I ran up to check the other car, Patty and Trish were already out of their car checking on the big kids. Neveah was crying softly, and Jamie was sitting quietly looking confused.
I went back to my car, where the grounds keeper, a passing motorist, DH and the other driver were talking to the babies. I realized the other driver was talking real slow and seemed kinda "off". My first thought was that perhaps he had a disability or was mentally ill, so then i felt bad thinking i had just flipped out on this guy who surely didn't do this on purpose. So i apologized for yelling at him and said i was just concerned about the kids.
The emt's arrived and checked out the twins first, we decided DH would drive them to the er to be checked further, the EMTs made collars out of towels, and we took Liam's seat out of the back, by this time Liam was smiling and making friends with the EMTs and the police officers. They evaluated James and we let him out of the vest, he was up and hopping around immediately, he hasn't been sore or grumpy at all
Patty and Trish were both complaining of neck and back pain, so they were backborded and collared and put in ambulances. Neveah then also started complaining of neck and face pain, they stabilized her head and loaded her in to an ambulance too, i had them move her seat on to a stretcher, as they were wanting to put her on the aft facing seat behind trishas stretcher.
once they were loaded i went back to my van to kiss the boys good bye, and the other driver was handcuffed and they were putting him in the police car.
Every one checked out ok, kids seemed to bounce back , but all of us grown ups are awfully sore.
The back of my van is trashed, the bumper, the door, the whole back end is misaligned.
Patty's car doesn't look bad, just 2 punctures to the bumper from the license plate screws and a clear stamp of my plate.
the other drivers front end is totally smashed in, it was a small older sedan of some kind.