I hope they really don't ride like this

momof2kiddos · Mar 23, 2007

I was looking up reveiws on a Britax Decathlon and on almost all the image pics of children riding in it the chest clip is way to low.

I hate how people think they bought the expensive seat so they think it will save thier child's life no matter what.

I really hope they were just taking pics and the kids really don't ride that way.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cu...0?ie=UTF8&sort=quality&index=0&page=2#gallery

broken4u05 · Mar 23, 2007

Yeah i hope that it is just for the photos but someone of them i dont think are

MySillyKids · Mar 23, 2007

EVERY single picture is like that too and they are not all the same kids. They must think that the shoulder pads go down like that. Wow. Just Wow.

Niea · Mar 23, 2007

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the picture was "staged". In other words, I really do think that the kids were riding around like that. I mean, that girl Leslie is pictured wearing three different outfits, one of which she's sleeping in. Seems "real world" to me. Nevermind the fact that she's entirely way too young to be forward facing anyway.

At least that other baby is rearfacing, even if the chest clip is all the way down to the crotch buckle!

tl01 · Mar 23, 2007

How hard is it to read the manual?? Geez!!

Patriot201 · Mar 24, 2007

My goodness. Low chest clip, loose harness...

Niea · Mar 24, 2007

I was thinking about this issue for a while, and I have a question.

Okay, I know you're supposed to have the chest clip, well, on the chest level with the armpits. But European seats do not have chest clips at all (I think it's because you're supposed to be able to get kid out with one motion?) -- if the harness was tight enough, I wonder how much of an issue is there if the chest clip was pushed all the way down to the buckle?

Jimaie(mom2boys) · Mar 24, 2007

Niea said:
I was thinking about this issue for a while, and I have a question.

Okay, I know you're supposed to have the chest clip, well, on the chest level with the armpits. But European seats do not have chest clips at all (I think it's because you're supposed to be able to get kid out with one motion?) -- if the harness was tight enough, I wonder how much of an issue is there if the chest clip was pushed all the way down to the buckle?

This is true...i remember coming across a thread on here about European car seats not having chest clips at all...Heres the UK Britax webiste, notice no clips...
http://www.britax.co.uk/ProductDetail.jsp?pid=27&cid=7&type=1

ETA: I foudn the thread i mentioned above.That being said, i use my chest clips but still a thot...
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=8076&highlight=chest+clip

tchrgrrl · Mar 24, 2007

My understanding is that European seats are designed differently or have different accessories - like thicker, grippier Hugs on the Britax seats that essentially do the same thing as the chest clip. The chest clip is not really an optional accessory on seats sold in the US just because their counterparts are chest-clipless in other countries.

Niea · Mar 24, 2007

tchrgrrl said:
My understanding is that European seats are designed differently or have different accessories - like thicker, grippier Hugs on the Britax seats that essentially do the same thing as the chest clip. The chest clip is not really an optional accessory on seats sold in the US just because their counterparts are chest-clipless in other countries.

This is true, but I was just reading the thread Jimaie posted and it also said that the chest-clip is not mandated in the US. As long as the child can keep the shoulder straps in place, it's okay not to use one.

Now, with those children in the photos, if the harness was snug enough, it doesn't even look like those children are old enough to have the dexterity to wiggle out of it. But then again, maybe the little houdini's could!

But in the end, you're right. The chest clip may not be mandated in the US, but since the straps are constructed differently, it's a good idea to use it anyway!

spokaneCPST · Mar 24, 2007

Niea said:
This is true, but I was just reading the thread Jimaie posted and it also said that the chest-clip is not mandated in the US. As long as the child can keep the shoulder straps in place, it's okay not to use one.

Now, with those children in the photos, if the harness was snug enough, it doesn't even look like those children are old enough to have the dexterity to wiggle out of it. But then again, maybe the little houdini's could!

But in the end, you're right. The chest clip may not be mandated in the US, but since the straps are constructed differently, it's a good idea to use it anyway!

It may be true that chest clips are not mandated in the US, but all seats that come with them MUST be used with them. That is the way the seat is crash tested. We don't know that the US seat would pass crash testing without that clip. Yes, if your US seat came without a clip (like some older FP seats), then you do not have to use one, but almost all seats on the US market at this time require the chest clip. Its not just a good idea, it is a requirement in order to use the seat correctly.
Renee

Stresch · Mar 24, 2007

At least one of the rearfacing kids had the shoulder straps too high, too. Since I have this seat, I am almost certain they were not on the lowest setting either.

Plus, aren't you supposed to remove the infant pillow when your kid is bigger? I'm sure it doesn't really matter that much, but I don't really like having all that stuff in the seat. It makes it harder to get the harness tight.

broken4u05 · Mar 24, 2007

Some people do not want to take the infant part out. I did not even use it when i got the BV for drew. I didnt think i needed it because he is already 16 months

beebear23 · Mar 24, 2007

I'm sure some people could say the same about the pic. in your siggy, since you can't see the straps on your DD's seat.....

Sadly, some people do ride around like that, but why not give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they liked the pic. and fixed the straps after tehy took it...

Yeah, okay, some of those are pretty bad though....

momof2kiddos · Mar 25, 2007

beebear23 said:
I'm sure some people could say the same about the pic. in your siggy, since you can't see the straps on your DD's seat.....

Yeah they probably could think I let her ride in the car strapless

But I don't I swear

I am a freak about thier straps.We are at a restraunt when I took that pic,she was just making cute faces at me and I couldn't resist a pic

Starlight · Mar 25, 2007

spokaneCPST said:
It may be true that chest clips are not mandated in the US, but all seats that come with them MUST be used with them. That is the way the seat is crash tested. We don't know that the US seat would pass crash testing without that clip. Yes, if your US seat came without a clip (like some older FP seats), then you do not have to use one, but almost all seats on the US market at this time require the chest clip. Its not just a good idea, it is a requirement in order to use the seat correctly.
Renee

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broken4u05 · Mar 25, 2007

i love that smilely

Niea · Mar 25, 2007

spokaneCPST said:
It may be true that chest clips are not mandated in the US, but all seats that come with them MUST be used with them. That is the way the seat is crash tested. We don't know that the US seat would pass crash testing without that clip. Yes, if your US seat came without a clip (like some older FP seats), then you do not have to use one, but almost all seats on the US market at this time require the chest clip. Its not just a good idea, it is a requirement in order to use the seat correctly.
Renee

Oh now I totally understand that. I was just asking, rhetorical more than anything, about "how much" it matters, ya know? But we'll never know because nobody has released info as to whether they were tested that way and what the results were.

In the end, I do what I'm told and advise friends to do the same. I was just curious about it, is all.

stayinhomewithmy6 · Mar 25, 2007

The pictures on Amazon are the worst. I look through sometimes just for fun, but am always so disturbed by the huge amount of misuse that I get knots in my stomach and have to stop looking! Did I say just for fun? Yeah, I guess it's not fun, so I don't know why I do it. It is my understanding that chest clips are pre-crash positioners. Their purpose is to position the straps correctly on the child's shoulders so that they are where they should be in the case of an accident. However, that little piece of plastic is not going to hold up to crash forces and will break or pop open, but by that point, it has already done it's job of keeping the straps on the shoulders where they are supposed to be.

Simplysomething · Mar 25, 2007

The pics over there---show the folks who bought the seat probably because it was the prettiest--not because of safety.

Of course I could be wrong. lol

ETA why do they have the Buy together and save. If I click on a marathon it tells me to buy another one and save.... two marathons for the low price of ...two marathons!

I hope they really don't ride like this

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