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View Poll Results: RFing or FFing?

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  • Keep her rfing as long as possible

    11 31.43%
  • Turn her ffing, 3y 7m is long enough

    20 57.14%
  • Other, please elaborate

    1 2.86%
  • Clicky

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    Senior Community Member melniemi's Avatar
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    3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I'm still torn. WWYD? Buy a TF and rf longer? or turn her ffing and put her in a FR?

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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    If it meant buying a new seat to keep her rfing, I'd just turn her.
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I don't know that I'd buy another seat to rear face longer at 3.5 years. Others would disagree. I'd probably pat myself on the back and turn her.

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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I'm on board with not purchasing another seat to keep her RF unless it is within your budget and can be passed on to another child. Will your MA expire before your little man can finish his RF days?

    I'd feel and have turned my child by 3y7m safe with the choice to go FF.
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I turned my DD forward-facing just a couple of days ago, at 3.5 years.
    DD 5.5yrs, FF in a Recaro ProSPORT
    DS 2.75yrs, RF in a Peg Primo Viaggio


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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I wouldn't buy her a new seat if you have one she can use.

    If you'll have to buy a seat anyway, I might consider getting one with a higher rfing limit and plan to pass it down to the baby later.
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    A week ago I would have said FF, but now I would say RF, having just been in a crash. My own 3.5 is going back RF even under protest.
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    Is there a reason she can't rf longer in the MA? I feel like I'm missing something. But I would probably buy a seat with a higher rf limit and pass it down to the baby later.

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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I'm gathering she's outgrowing it by height RF.
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I voted clicky, but only because I'm not entirely sure I subscribe to RF "as long as possible," especially with a lightweight who probably could RF until college.

    Given that she'll need a harnessed seat for another three-ish years, and you have one younger who will also need a seat, I would probably go for one that will allow her to RF long, but also make a good FFing seat. TrueFit is a good solution; Complete Air would be another. I would probably skip something like the MR, since it probably won't last particularly long, and you don't need the weight. The third choice would be a Radian; non-SL or 65SL since there's no sense in paying for the ERF weight capacities.

    It's funny, I agree with An Aurora's perspective... I think having been in a (relatively) recent crash, at a decent rate of speed, clouds it. Before my Feb crash, I had been rearended a time or two, but that's nothing compared to wrong-side-of-the-highway head on. Nobody was in my vehicle, but looking back at my seats and thinking about how they would have performed in that specific accident, I was so very very glad I knew about ERF. In fact, my FFer was the only one that would have concerned me, but at not-yet-5 and 48lbs, I didn't have a choice with him... and his seat was the closest to the point of collision.

    That said -- I certainly wouldn't think you are a negligent parent if you opt to FF her. At 3y7m, she's past several crucial years of development, and into the age of questionable benefit. I opt to err on the side of caution, but I don't think that those who feel the benefit is minimal are negligent, either.
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I was in the same predicament. My DD is 29lbs right now, at 4yrs 2mo. I turned her at 3.5, when she was 34lbs fully clothed in winter gear. I had to buy a new seat regardless, because I didn't like her current seat FF in my van. I briefly considered a Radian, but decided to get a Frontier. Now, she's lost some weight and fluctuates between 28-30lbs, and I'm leaving her FF... however, the other day we rode in DH's car and she begged to go RF, so I let her. She's back FF in my van now.

    If you have to buy a new seat regardless of which way she faces, it's really a toss up, and you have to decide what you're comfortable with. For me, I was comfortable turning my DD around, but that's just me. Good luck with your decision!
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    If you have to buy a new seat anyway, I vote for the one that is good rear-facing and forward facing that can be used until your dd goes to a booster. Something like the radian, true fit, or complete air would be good. I don't subscribe to rfing as long as possible for skinny minnies, but rfing to age 4 or 5 is optimal. I don't think it would be bad to turn a 3.5 year old forward facing either. My 5.5 year old dd rode rfing for the past month. She had no problems with it. She likes forward facing too.
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I guess I would buy a RF seat if you can comfortably afford it and you have no either reasons not to continue RF. I just got a Radian last week for my 3 year 3mo old DD. She hit 31lbs with out clothes and her Boulevard was one of those older 33lbs limit seats. My reasoning was that as we can afford it, she does not complain and we don't complain why should we turn her around as she is safer RF. I think we try to make it to 5. We will move to Europe in 6mo and I need to buy 2 seats from there so I will get two more RF seats for my over 3.5 year old. I was debating what to do and asked DH and he said we should continue RF as she is still so tiny (daddy's little baby girl ).

    I have to say though that I would never ever judge anybody for turning their over 3 year old FF.

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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    I think it hugely depends on how you feel. I turned my son FF at about 3 years 4 months. I did alot of thinking & aggonizing over it, but decided in the end that I was fine with that decision.

    If you have to buy a new seat anyway, then I would probably buy her something she would be able to RF in if you think you might regret turning her. If you're going to turn her FF & be fine with that without feeling bad, then I think the Frontier is the way to go.
    Krista Mommy 2 Marcus, 6 years old, 48 inches tall, 40-42lbs, 16 inch torso & riding in a Graco Safety Surround!!

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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    If I had a seat that she fit in rear facing I would leave her. I probably would not buy a seat to keep her rear facing. I would go with the frontier if it were me.
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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    Baby is 1/2" from outgrowing his keyfit and dd2 has 1" of torso growth left in her marathon. So I'll pass the marathon down to baby and need something else.

    I do have an extra frontier - pending sale or possibly trade for a TFP - dd1 is close-ish to outgrowing hers so I want a FR85. I'll keep one for dd2 to get later.

    So...I have 1 marathon and 2 Frontiers. Baby will get the marathon. I have an offer to trade 1 FR for a TFP.......but the FR was pending sale first - was supposed to get paid on Friday, so I guess I could go ahead with the trade, then I'd be set.

    So I can trade 1 FR for the TFP and be set for awhile. Then next spring, I could get dd1 a FR85 and pass down her FR. Or if the FR sale goes through, I can buy a TFP or a FR85.

    Thanks for the input.

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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    Since it sounds like it won't cause undue hardship to your family, I'd go ahead and get the TFP and RF. I would opt for RFing pretty much at all costs for an under 2, sacrificing whatever was necesary. I would opt for RFing when reasonably possible, and would go to moderate lengths in that regard, to RF an under 4. I would RF an over 4 if it did not cause undue hardship or inconveniece to my family situation, but would probably not go to any serious lengths to make it happen. So...since in your situation it sounds like you woudn't be taking food from hungry childrens mouths, and the TFP would get many full years of use by potentially multiple children, I'd absolutely opt for the RFing option.

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    Re: 3y 7m, 28#s, rfing or ffing?

    Pretty much the same stats as my DD.

    We are purchasing another seat to RF longer We have 2 seats that can rf her easily, but the 3rd is outgrown at 30lbs and thats our "spare" seat. So on those occasions I still am not comfortable ff'ing her.

    And because DD is such a light weight petite little girl I know she wont be boostering anytime soon. Thus I have zero apprehensions about buying more convertibles.

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