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    86y or RSTV

    Going back to this thread, which would you choose. I'm not saying I will go out and get one, just curious.

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    I can't vote without more information. Do you have a headrest in the position it would be used in? If not, is the rider short enough to not need a booster? What is the weight of the child? (The 86-Y requires a booster under a certain weight.)
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    There is no headrest. The one I would use it with is not much higher than the seat, maybe an inch or two. The 86y seems the most logical, The kid weighs maybe 70lbs, but my thoughts were to use it with a booster.

    Should this be in a more private forum?

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    So, you'd have to fit a booster in with the 86-Y, then, and the child is very close to the RSTV weight limit. I guess I'd do the 86-Y, assuming a booster that works with it will fit, and remembering the heavy-duty tether anchor requirement starts at, what, 80 lbs. in your vehicle?
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    I don't know the weight requirement for the heavy duty tether, but am curious as to where it would go.

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    If you have a tether anchor installed already, you remove it and replace with the HDTA in most cases. The limit I believe follows the vehicle limit, that's 80 in your car I think?
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    What is the tether weight limit in your vehicle? If the child is under that weight limit, you can use the factory tether. If the child is over that weight limit, you need to put in the HDTA that comes with the 86Y. You can take out the factory tether anchor, drill the hole larger, and install the HDTA in essentially the same location, or you can find a different spot to put it. There's instructions on how to do it with the 86Y. They are also accessible on EZ-On's website.
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    My tether hooks are under the seat. I can not find a weight limit in my car for the top tether hooks or LATCH.

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    What's the make?

    If you can't do it there, you can follow the directions, as Pixels said, and find another spot, in the floor or the roof.
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    It's a 2000 Windstar, I read the section on carseat installs, LATCH and Tether, a few times over and can't find anything. Anywhere else in the manual it would be?

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    In the LATCH manual. 60 pounds for kids in car seats, 80 pounds when providing upper torso restraint for a vest type restraint. So for the 86Y, 80 pounds.
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    Thanks.

    Wow, that means I could have used the Frontier with LATCH? So at 80lbs i have to install the heavy duty Tether hook?

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    Sorry, that was just the top tether anchor weights. I think the lower anchor weights are different, don't have my manual in front of me at the moment.

    Yes, at 80 pounds you would need to install the HDTA for the 86Y or for the RSTV.
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    Wait, That means I can't use it for my DD? She is wavering between 58-60lbs. Please don't tell me I have to install this thing, I do not know how and have no idea where to put it, and am NOT ready to put her in booster mode.

    She uses a Frontier85.

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    Lower anchor weight limit is 48 pounds.
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    But the top tether is 60lbs for a child in a carseat? So I can't use the top tether?

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    According to Ford, no, not once she's past 60.
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    Great, so where do I get the heavy duty tether and where to install?

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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    Instructions on how to pick a spot for installing come with the anchor. You order the anchor from EZ-on.

    The LATCH manual does have a section on "what to do if the car seat requires tether use, and the allowed child weight exceeds the manufacturer's limit." Specifically, this comes up with the Regent and Frontier a LOT. So, basically it's a parental decision to continue using the factory-installed tether anchor, if you do it. Be aware that testing showed that the anchor is not likely to fail, and if it did, it would likely fail AFTER it had already done its job, and that in the authors' opinion, the benefit of using over the limit probably outweighs the risk. Also be aware that there is no GUARANTEE of this since Ford only certifies it to be used to 60.
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    Re: 86y or RSTV

    Honestly I can't see how it would fail, since it is part of the seat, but anyhoo, I will contact EZ-on for the anchor. But I will take it to Ford because I really don't want to mess it up.

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