They're up, they're up!!! New Britax owner's manuals!

essnce629 · Jul 2, 2010

Marathon 70
http://www.britaxusa.com/uploads/products/user-guides/69.pdf

Boulevard 70
http://www.britaxusa.com/uploads/products/user-guides/67.pdf

Baby is freaking out right now so I can't read them yet!

MomToEliEm · Jul 2, 2010

Was this in the previous marathon manuals (page 6 of the marathon manual)?

Infant positioning insert may be necessary for small infants to achieve a
snug fit of the harness around your child. Infant positioning insert sold
separately.

Are they talking about a britax product or one of the 3rd party add-on infant inserts?

featherhead · Jul 2, 2010

I see that for rear-facing it's one inch from the top of the shell, NOT the headrest, as some were hoping.

skitle1802 · Jul 2, 2010

MomToEliEm said:
Was this in the previous marathon manuals (page 6 of the marathon manual)?

Infant positioning insert may be necessary for small infants to achieve a
snug fit of the harness around your child. Infant positioning insert sold
separately.

Are they talking about a britax product or one of the 3rd party add-on infant inserts?

On page 14 they show 5. Infant body pillow. So it looks like it should be a Britax product. It doesn't say "on equipped models" so who knows if it will be included or sold separately.

safeinthecar · Jul 2, 2010

MomToEliEm said:
Was this in the previous marathon manuals (page 6 of the marathon manual)?

Infant positioning insert may be necessary for small infants to achieve a
snug fit of the harness around your child. Infant positioning insert sold
separately.

Are they talking about a britax product or one of the 3rd party add-on infant inserts?

The body pillow is part of the included comfort padding. For small infants there is a separate foam insert that goes under the cover you can buy from Britax. It is basically the same that you can order tor the Chaperone.

featherhead said:
I see that for rear-facing it's one inch from the top of the shell, NOT the headrest, as some were hoping.

I'm interested in verification of that. The BLVD70 manual does not specify that that the headrest does not count as part of the shell, and the pic for that section is the MA70, so who knows.

hrice · Jul 2, 2010

What does this apply to? Page 2

"Use only in a rear-facing position when using it with an infant
weighing less than 20 lbs (9.1 kg) OR is less than 1 year of age"

I saw this on the side of the Evenflo Symphony 65 the other day too.

KaysKidz · Jul 2, 2010

hrice said:
What does this apply to? Page 2

"Use only in a rear-facing position when using it with an infant
weighing less than 20 lbs (9.1 kg) OR is less than 1 year of age"

I saw this on the side of the Evenflo Symphony 65 the other day too.

Just means rf'ing is not optional for those ages/weights. If they are over 20lbs and over 1yr...they can ff...or rf...but under, they must rf.

hrice · Jul 2, 2010

KaysKidz said:
Just means rf'ing is not optional for those ages/weights. If they are over 20lbs and over 1yr...they can ff...or rf...but under, they must rf.

The wording is confusing:scratcheshead:

crunchierthanthou · Jul 2, 2010

hrice said:
The wording is confusing:scratcheshead:

because that's what NHTSA says they have to use. The label content is dictated by FMVSS 213. It's actually recall worthy if they use any other wording.

tiggercat · Jul 2, 2010

I want to see the Canadian ones, doesn't look like they are available yet.

Athena · Jul 2, 2010

featherhead said:
I see that for rear-facing it's one inch from the top of the shell, NOT the headrest, as some were hoping.

Thank you, I was just about to look for this.

I am so disappointed. What were they thinking?! This doesn't make any sense. What's the point of adding that 5 pounds while simultaneously shrinking the height limit? And why add rear facing leg room so tall kids will be more comfortable when by the time they really need that additional leg room they would probably have outgrown it by height anyway? I'd be okay with them keeping the old height limit, but reducing it? Seriously? I don't get it.
:crying:

ETA: Am I the only who is upset about them shrinking the RF height capacity of the seat? After all the complaints over the 35 pound limit being too low, am I the only one who is considering not buying one because of the short shell?

safeinthecar said:
I'm interested in verification of that. The BLVD70 manual does not specify that that the headrest does not count as part of the shell, and the pic for that section is the MA70, so who knows.

I had been hoping that too, but it occurred to me (last night?) that there would be limitations to how high the head piece could go rear facing because it would have to be kept low enough to keep the shoulder straps at or below the child's shoulders. Still, it might have helped.

ETA: Watching the video review because apparently I'm not sad enough. Loving the crimson. Wish it would work for tall kids!

Athena · Jul 2, 2010

I may be a little late on this, but I just noticed that the splitter plate just has one slot for both straps. I don't like that. I suspect it will be harder to use and the current kind is so nice and easy to use. I guess with the new adjustable head piece it won't be needed as much, except for the RA55.

kidzndogz · Jul 2, 2010

Athena said:
I may be a little late on this, but I just noticed that the splitter plate just has one slot for both straps. I don't like that. I suspect it will be harder to use and the current kind is so nice and easy to use. I guess with the new adjustable head piece it won't be needed as much, except for the RA55.

Yeah that would piss me off to no end. It's like the Radian splitter, which I detest. Fortunately with the no rethread adjuster on most models it won't have to be dealt with really.

crunchierthanthou · Jul 2, 2010

Athena said:
I may be a little late on this, but I just noticed that the splitter plate just has one slot for both straps. I don't like that. I suspect it will be harder to use and the current kind is so nice and easy to use. I guess with the new adjustable head piece it won't be needed as much, except for the RA55.

kidzndogz said:
Yeah that would piss me off to no end. It's like the Radian splitter, which I detest. Fortunately with the no rethread adjuster on most models it won't have to be dealt with really.

The new Frontier85 one is like that too. Good point that you'll hardly ever have to change it - especially with the new covers. I wonder if it was because the old wider one would get stuck on the Frontier. It would catch on the plastic ledges on the outside of the harness channel on the back.

christineka · Jul 2, 2010

Athena said:
ETA: Am I the only who is upset about them shrinking the RF height capacity of the seat? After all the complaints over the 35 pound limit being too low, am I the only one who is considering not buying one because of the short shell?

I am happy for this. It means there is no reason for me to lust after one. I don't needs to spend my time wishing I had yet another, super expensive car seat. Sorry for others who actually wanted one, though.

marjen · Jul 2, 2010

Athena said:
ETA: Watching the video review because apparently I'm not sad enough. Loving the crimson. Wish it would work for tall kids!

In the video review, it shows that the new Marathon headrest extends pretty high above the shell when it is at the highest point. So would that affect the RF height limit at all? Just curious if the headrest height will count.

DahliaRW · Jul 2, 2010

Well, with no added shell height, might as well save my money and buy a MR! The seat depth looks the same too. Dissapointing.

Athena · Jul 2, 2010

christineka said:
I am happy for this. It means there is no reason for me to lust after one. I don't needs to spend my time wishing I had yet another, super expensive car seat. Sorry for others who actually wanted one, though.

marjen said:
In the video review, it shows that the new Marathon headrest extends pretty high above the shell when it is at the highest point. So would that affect the RF height limit at all? Just curious if the headrest height will count.

Not according to the manual that states the shell is the guide. Also, the harness straps that are attached to that head piece have to remain at or below shoulders so you wouldn't be able to raise it higher than that anyway.

DahliaRW said:
Well, with no added shell height, might as well save my money and buy a MR! The seat depth looks the same too. Dissapointing.

Good point. Now that the Britax shells have shrunk, will the MR be taller?

ZephyrBlue · Jul 2, 2010

I'm interested in verification of that. The BLVD70 manual does not specify that that the headrest does not count as part of the shell, and the pic for that section is the MA70, so who knows.

I agree. Would really like to hear what the official word from Britax is.

jeno · Jul 2, 2010

Coming straight from the BLVD70 manual. Looks like this will not be a seat for us afterall. I'm totally bummed.

Use rear-facing with children:

when the top of the child’s head is at
least 1 in. (2.5 cm) below the top of the
child seat shell (Fig. A)

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