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    quickest line to explain ERF...

    A lot of my co-workers don't understand ERF, after sharing some videos and links from this site I've convinced a few. MOST are still too concerned with their LO's legs touching the backseat. What is the best, quick line that explains why it's fine if their legs touch. The line of broken legs are better than a broken neck works for some, but some moms are not okay knowing about any "broken" body part!!
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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    Read through this article and see if there is any one-line statements you think might work with your coworkers.

    http://carseatqueen.com/rf.aspx
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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    Broken leg = cast it. Broken neck = casket.

    Legs are actually MORE likely to be broken when forward facing.

    It's safer for newborns and it's safer for toddlers, too. It's safer for everybody, even adults, to ride rear facing. The spine is perfectly supported by the seat.
    Melissa, CPST and Mom to three

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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    More legs are broken forward-facing than rear-facing. If there was a crash so extreme that a rear-facing child's legs were broken, it would probably cause paralysis or death to a forward-facer.
    CPST and Mom to Emma, 15, Bridget, 13, Maggie, 11, Katie Sue, 6, Jimmy, born May 2019,
    and Becky, waiting for us as part of our eternal family.
    Our '02 Odyssey, car seats, and seatbelts saved our lives. Now riding in a '13 Odyssey!

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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    Yes, the part about more legs and extremities are broken forward facing, because of impact to the front seat backs, etc.
    Whatever Wendy said

    "No one else will ever know the strength of my love for you, after all, you're the only one who knows what my heart sounds like from the inside." -Unknown

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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    The two most common injuries forward facing people get in car crashes are whiplash and broken limbs. Broken bones are painful and inconvenient, but let me tell you, I'd rather have back labor while standing in line at DMV than to ever have whiplash again. Just the thought of dealing with a cranky kid with whiplash is enough to make me want to run away and hide, so if a rear-facing car seat saves me from that, I'm all for it.
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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    I always forward the Joel's Journey site on to reluctant/skeptical friends and family.

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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    I think I'd redirect the focus towards the whiplash issue - I think everyone knows the feeling of their head flopping forward any time you hit the brakes hard. Add that a much larger percent of a child's body mass is in their head and then ask whether they think the child's head and neck would be better supported forward facing (where the head would snap forward) or rear facing (where the whole back and spine and head are supported by the rear facing seat).
    Elaine
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    and comfy chair to Lily Cat (no car seats but will use a kitty harness for walks)

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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    Or how about this from the babycenter "Biggest Car Safety Mistakes parents make and how to avoid them" article
    "Children have large heads and comparatively weak necks, so in a head-on collision (the most common type of crash) a child's head can jerk forward suddenly and violently, resulting in spinal injuries. For this reason, keep your child rear-facing position as long as possible."
    Elaine
    Mom to Lydia & Deborah (both 5-stepped and almost as tall as mom) 15YO
    and comfy chair to Lily Cat (no car seats but will use a kitty harness for walks)

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    Re: quickest line to explain ERF...

    You could try "when rear-facing the back of the seat cradles the neck and spine. When forward facing the straps are holding them back and they are much more likely to get hurt."

    Emily tech and mom to Jacob 16, Daniel 13, Benjamin 9, Elizabeth 6. Child care provider to 4 other kiddos.

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