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    CPST Instructor trippsmom's Avatar
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    Is there a point when the GN doesn't need to be ta'd?

    I was installing a GN in my car and as I crawled through the back to latch the TA I was told it wasn't needed. Is there a point where this is so? It was being used FF as a harnessed seat. I did it anyway. Could it have hurt anything? I would really like to know since I will likely have her w/ me more often soon.

    Also, just for future ref, the three across w/ it, the sr, and TFP worked well in the 04 explorer. I did a seatbelt install since the latch strap was beside dd's seat and she was sleeping. I did remove the headrest.
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    Re: Is there a point when the GN doesn't need to be ta'd?

    I'm guessing you mean the top tether? The GN did well in testing w/o the top tether, but its use greatly reduces head excursion and is highly recommended if a tether spot is available.
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    Re: Is there a point when the GN doesn't need to be ta'd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raegansmom4 View Post
    I'm guessing you mean the top tether? The GN did well in testing w/o the top tether, but its use greatly reduces head excursion and is highly recommended if a tether spot is available.
    Yes, that is what I meant.

    I will continue to do it.

    It just threw me for a loop. I guess I see where her mom came to the conclusion. I just guess I would want to use it if possible, kinda like an rf tether if offered, Kwim?
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    Re: Is there a point when the GN doesn't need to be ta'd?

    Quote Originally Posted by trippsmom View Post
    I was installing a GN in my car and as I crawled through the back to latch the TA I was told it wasn't needed. Is there a point where this is so? It was being used FF as a harnessed seat. I did it anyway. Could it have hurt anything? I would really like to know since I will likely have her w/ me more often soon.

    Also, just for future ref, the three across w/ it, the sr, and TFP worked well in the 04 explorer. I did a seatbelt install since the latch strap was beside dd's seat and she was sleeping. I did remove the headrest.
    You removedwhat headrest? On the vehicle seat I assume? Just making sure not the head of the GN

    Graco does not require the use of the tether, but it is always strongly recomended. Short of an emergency, I won't put one of my kids FF w/o one.
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    Re: Is there a point when the GN doesn't need to be ta'd?

    Quote Originally Posted by NannyMom View Post
    You removedwhat headrest? On the vehicle seat I assume? Just making sure not the head of the GN

    Graco does not require the use of the tether, but it is always strongly recomended. Short of an emergency, I won't put one of my kids FF w/o one.
    I removed the headrest on the vehicle seat, not the GN.

    I really wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong by tethering it. I thought there could be a chance that it was not to be tethered after x lbs or x inches.
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    Re: Is there a point when the GN doesn't need to be ta'd?

    All harnessed seats should be tethered forward facing, if possible.

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    Re: Is there a point when the GN doesn't need to be ta'd?

    http://carseat.org/Technical/tech_update.htm#toptether
    Picture of how much further the head and feet fly when a seat isn't tethered.

    Always, always top tether a harnessed seat (most cars can even have top tether anchors added, it's a pretty substantial safety feature, whether it's legally required or not).
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    Re: Is there a point when the GN doesn't need to be ta'd?

    I agree... I don't see why you would ever NOT tether a harnessed seat... unless the manual specifies otherwise.



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