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    CPS Technician Victorious4's Avatar
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    Lightbulb We the people....

    demand that the laws of our sates & nation reflect safest practice guidelines -- the simple act of transporting our children in the vehicle on a daily basis is a life or death matter!
    • Safest practice includes:
      • mandatory RF until at least 12 months AND 20#
      • harnessed until 4 years, 40#
      • boostered until passing the 5 Step Test
      • as well as a Proper Use clause
    If your state lacks safest practice law, you are encouraged as a citizen to communicate with your repesentatives the need for improved safety laws A personal request is that you not stop at CPSafety, but write your representatives often about every issue that concerns you: family violence, war, etc.
    Last edited by Victorious4; 01-27-2007 at 10:22 PM.
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    Re: We the people....

    I would up the RF limit to 2 and 30 lbs. Most states already require 12/20.
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    Re: We the people....

    I thought about that -- but, it's not the "standard" & from what I've read, few states require RF at all.... NY doesn't, nor do we have a Proper Use clause

    Mass people writing in to urge the standard recommendation to be increased to 2 yrs and/or 30# would be awesome, though!
    Last edited by Victorious4; 01-27-2007 at 10:10 PM.
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    SCARLA: winter '02 . . . Jr. Roller Derby level III
    BEAR: spring '11 ... Recaro Sport + Clek Oobr
    RAHNE: summer '17 ... MicoMax30 + RadianRXT
    childcare: 0-7yrs... Contender + Frontier Clicktight
    {emergencies: Scenera Next, Highback, Topside}

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    Re: We the people....

    Even though that says as of Jan. 07...it must not be up to date. KY's laws changed year before last, and it went primary last summer. Booster to 8 years or 65lbs. Well, I'm not sure on the weight, but I know it is 8 years.

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    Re: We the people....

    Quote Originally Posted by skaterbabscpst View Post
    I would up the RF limit to 2 and 30 lbs. Most states already require 12/20.
    Most states don't have rear facing laws. It's just a recommendation. It will be hard if not impossible to get a 2yr & 30lb law passed.

    I also see issues with that limit too. I had a little boy back last fall that was 13mths and 32lbs. There is no way he would make it to 2yrs rear facing. I had to turn him ff'ing in her Boulevard due to his size. I hated doing it but it had to be done.

    I think just getting the 1 & 20lb as a law in all states is our first approach.
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    Re: We the people....

    They can take a while to update -- it took them quite a while to add NY's booster law, too.... But, it's usually the most detailed & current source that I know of: there's a colorful map somewhere but it's filled with horrible add on product images
    TIFF ~ doula & all hours childcare provider
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    BEAR: spring '11 ... Recaro Sport + Clek Oobr
    RAHNE: summer '17 ... MicoMax30 + RadianRXT
    childcare: 0-7yrs... Contender + Frontier Clicktight
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    Re: We the people....

    I thought so. Plus Ky is having some issue about the original law implicating neglegence when a booster isn't used and they don't want it to read that way...some kind of pety crap. So as of now it just says that children over 40 lbs will be in an approved booster seat. Crazy.

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    Re: We the people....

    How could it not negligence Of course it's negligence if someone does not use a life saving device when the child does not fit the seatbelt as per NHTSA, AAP & the vehicle manufacturer's manual Prime example of a situation to write in about...!
    TIFF ~ doula & all hours childcare provider
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    Re: We the people....

    EXACTLY!!! I mean, they want the law to say its illegal to NOT use a proper booster and you will be fined accordingly. BUT, if you are in an accident and the child is hurt is not negligence....just a FINE. WTH?!?!

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    Re: We the people....

    Actually, the majority of states have proper use clauses and require 12/20. There are a bunch that don't, but they are the minority.
    Every convertible seat currently on the market goes to 30 lbs RF. THAT should be the legal minimum, not 20 lbs.
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    Re: We the people....

    Quote Originally Posted by skaterbabscpst View Post
    Actually, the majority of states have proper use clauses and require 12/20. There are a bunch that don't, but they are the minority.
    Every convertible seat currently on the market goes to 30 lbs RF. THAT should be the legal minimum, not 20 lbs.
    I haven't looked up the actual legislation for each state, but only 11 states on the IIHS list show RF requirements
    If they're not up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate being notified....
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    Re: We the people....

    I wish they would simply make it rf to 30lbs regardless of age. That would allow for most kids to make it to at least 2 years old, and for those that don't then they wouldn't be breaking the law.

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    Re: We the people....

    Quote Originally Posted by Amaris View Post
    I wish they would simply make it rf to 30lbs regardless of age. That would allow for most kids to make it to at least 2 years old, and for those that don't then they wouldn't be breaking the law.
    Well said. That I agree with. And raising won't prevent the states without 12/20 from meeting 12/20 (which is stupid anyway.)
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