mommy2jasmine
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On the last trip I took, back home, we stopped to do the let people off, and more people on thing. We didn't get off the plane. Anyway, they did their count, and I asked if I could move up to bulkhead, so my daughter wouldn't have the urge to push on the seat in front of her and bother the passenger sitting there. They agreed, not knowing what my true intentions were. (I totally took care of the seat kick thing on the way TOO Oregon, so she hadn't even touched it on the way back, lol...I just knew if I said, "I'd like to rear face my 2 1/2 year old on the last 2 hour leg of this trip. Can I move up to bulkhead?" They'd be like...Uh...what!? No...
There were 3 lady people who do the safety stuff (what are they called?) and when I started to put it in RF they wondered what I was doing. I told them, and 2 of them tried to tell me I couldn't. I told THEM that my tech friends (you guys are my friends now ) had read their manual, and it states that a car seat must be installed in a forward facing seat (or whatever it says (i didn't say whatever it says, but you know)...Which just meant that if we were on a plane with rear facing passenger seats, which some have, I couldn't put her car seat in that seat. Lady person #3 said it was parental decision, and checked the manual, and told the other 2 off. Ha!
So... I got it in RF and it was probably EXACTLY 45 degrees, if I had to guess. It was kind of bouncy though, if I remember right. It didn't move from side to side at all, so no 1 inch of movement. I got it in safe, and didn't do much more than that, because the other 2 stewardesses were hanging around the corner, ready to tell me to just FF her so we could get going, or who knows why...Just because I think they were annoyed I knew more than them maybe?
So, yeah...I would have to say a Radian can be installed RF on the plane (bulkhead only, of course). What sucks though, and maybe this makes it not compatible for RF on the plane, but there is no seat bite, to speak of. I mean, there is, but it goes down, not parallel to the ground like normal car bites, if that makes sense.
Also, is bouncy-ness bad? Because if a little bounce (since no where to RF tether) is no bueno, then I guess, again, I probably shouldn't have RF'd her. As far as I could tell, and that's my untrained eye, it worked. When I set the car seat down first, in one of the farther rows back, I set it in RFing, just to see...There's no way. And of course, you can't put car seats in the emergency isles.
Bulkhead is reserved for old people, handicap (disabled) and such. I just got lucky. I definitely wouldn't count on RF on the plane with that seat. It has a FF recline, which didn't recline enough to keep my dd's head from flopping down when she was FF during the first leg, and all the way to Oregon. I had to rig up a blanket dealy thing to keep her head up when she slept. It just looked so uncomfy, and I'm not used to seeing that.
I may be flying again soon (Feb or so), and will see if I can manage another bulkhead arrangement and take video and pictures and stuff. I don't think I have any, unfortunately, from this last time. I totally meant to, but I think my camera died. That's the only reason I can think of why I wouldn't have 45 pictures of her RFing on the plane (or anywhere that day for that matter )
I do like it FF on the plane though. And since the #1 issue on planes isn't crashing, but rather the turbulence, I felt pretty good about her FFing. Some kids where walking up and down the isles :thumbsdown: . However, throwing stuff on the ground, and major head floppage was pretty lame. I did like how I could ball up her wrap and stick it between me and her seat (ff) and take a nap myself. When it was RF, and when we RF'd her previous seats, I ended up in her lap and I have to say, adult backs are not made to do the things we see our tiny ones do.
(There should be a character limit on posts. Sorry for so much rambling and talking. I hope that wasn't too much. I just read a post that mentioned no ones first hand experience with bulkhead RF Radian, and thought I would post this to get it out there that (i think) it's possible. Oh how I wish I was a tech, so I would be able to say "yes, it worked in bulkhead. DO IT!" or "nah, you should probably just stick with the FF anywhere on the plane")
Again, hope that helps someone, and I hope someone pipes in here about whether the bounce and the bite, or lack thereof, issue is ok. later gator
There were 3 lady people who do the safety stuff (what are they called?) and when I started to put it in RF they wondered what I was doing. I told them, and 2 of them tried to tell me I couldn't. I told THEM that my tech friends (you guys are my friends now ) had read their manual, and it states that a car seat must be installed in a forward facing seat (or whatever it says (i didn't say whatever it says, but you know)...Which just meant that if we were on a plane with rear facing passenger seats, which some have, I couldn't put her car seat in that seat. Lady person #3 said it was parental decision, and checked the manual, and told the other 2 off. Ha!
So... I got it in RF and it was probably EXACTLY 45 degrees, if I had to guess. It was kind of bouncy though, if I remember right. It didn't move from side to side at all, so no 1 inch of movement. I got it in safe, and didn't do much more than that, because the other 2 stewardesses were hanging around the corner, ready to tell me to just FF her so we could get going, or who knows why...Just because I think they were annoyed I knew more than them maybe?
So, yeah...I would have to say a Radian can be installed RF on the plane (bulkhead only, of course). What sucks though, and maybe this makes it not compatible for RF on the plane, but there is no seat bite, to speak of. I mean, there is, but it goes down, not parallel to the ground like normal car bites, if that makes sense.
Also, is bouncy-ness bad? Because if a little bounce (since no where to RF tether) is no bueno, then I guess, again, I probably shouldn't have RF'd her. As far as I could tell, and that's my untrained eye, it worked. When I set the car seat down first, in one of the farther rows back, I set it in RFing, just to see...There's no way. And of course, you can't put car seats in the emergency isles.
Bulkhead is reserved for old people, handicap (disabled) and such. I just got lucky. I definitely wouldn't count on RF on the plane with that seat. It has a FF recline, which didn't recline enough to keep my dd's head from flopping down when she was FF during the first leg, and all the way to Oregon. I had to rig up a blanket dealy thing to keep her head up when she slept. It just looked so uncomfy, and I'm not used to seeing that.
I may be flying again soon (Feb or so), and will see if I can manage another bulkhead arrangement and take video and pictures and stuff. I don't think I have any, unfortunately, from this last time. I totally meant to, but I think my camera died. That's the only reason I can think of why I wouldn't have 45 pictures of her RFing on the plane (or anywhere that day for that matter )
I do like it FF on the plane though. And since the #1 issue on planes isn't crashing, but rather the turbulence, I felt pretty good about her FFing. Some kids where walking up and down the isles :thumbsdown: . However, throwing stuff on the ground, and major head floppage was pretty lame. I did like how I could ball up her wrap and stick it between me and her seat (ff) and take a nap myself. When it was RF, and when we RF'd her previous seats, I ended up in her lap and I have to say, adult backs are not made to do the things we see our tiny ones do.
(There should be a character limit on posts. Sorry for so much rambling and talking. I hope that wasn't too much. I just read a post that mentioned no ones first hand experience with bulkhead RF Radian, and thought I would post this to get it out there that (i think) it's possible. Oh how I wish I was a tech, so I would be able to say "yes, it worked in bulkhead. DO IT!" or "nah, you should probably just stick with the FF anywhere on the plane")
Again, hope that helps someone, and I hope someone pipes in here about whether the bounce and the bite, or lack thereof, issue is ok. later gator