Am I being silly?

super_grape

Active member
So my giant baby is squished in his Snugride 35 (22+ lbs. at 6 mos.:eek:!). He has room height wise but his not-so-little shoulders/arms looked uncomfortable. I bought a Scenera Next to try out and figured it would be a great back up seat if we decided we wanted something else.

This is my dilemma. I love the Next but it just feels so flimsy and too light! I get a great install and really love the soft harness. The cover is great and he looks much more comfortable. But it doesn't have EPS foam and isn't made of a sturdy feeling plastic. My older girls rode in Britax seats, older DS had a True Fit. All sturdy seats.

So am I being ridiculous thinking that the Scenera is not as safe because there's no EPS foam and it's so light?
 
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msg221

Well-known member
I don't think so. I preferred having the pricier seats because they did feel sturdier and I appreciated the convenience features as well. It's been a while since I've had kids in convertibles, but during those years, I had Britax Boulevards, a Marathon, Diono Radian, My Ride, True Fit . . . I tried a lot of seats!
 

super_grape

Active member
I'm so sad that we can't get the true fit anymore and the PROtect isn't available in Canada yet. That was my all time favourite seat!
 

MamaChirpy

New member
Why not try the Next for a while? I didn't expect to like it as much as I do. It's a really love able seat. [emoji4]


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Nedra

Car-Seat.org Ambassador
There are lots of things that I prefer about the "sturdier" seats -- notably that they are less likely to tip when being installed and they stay put instead of gradually slipping into a more reclined position over time.

That said, I don't think your assumptions that they aren't as safe are accurate. It's okay to prefer sturdier seats, but that doesn't necessarily mean you are getting a safer seat. I have no concerns about the safety of a NEXT.


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mamah

New member
Yes. :) That is why they crash test the seats. Your gut feeling is not going to be accurate. If you prefer the features of the more expensive seat, go for it. But they are not any safer (assuming correct install and use with both).
 

bnsnyde

New member
We have one of those seats as it is light so if I need a backup seat I use it. I do prefer the EPS foam especially by the head, though. And the anti-rebound bar. Basically I want as many safety features as I can find.

17-month-old still fits in the infant seat (Graco 40) and that has been easy to use, even as he gets heavy amazingly.
 

katymyers

Active member
Normally I totally go for the sturdy, solid seats but I really, really like the NEXT. I honestly would probably use it exclusively from birth until it was outgrown if I had another baby. If I was going to use it forward facing I would probably want a bit more sturdiness and some energy absorbing features but for rear facing, I don't mind the lack of features at all. I consider it to be my second favorite seat of all time now.


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Persimmon

Active member
I haven't had a Next but I did have the previous version for a travel/spare seat. I hated the RF install and wasn't thrilled about how wimpy the chest clip felt, but I was thrilled how the seat flexed in the RF crash test videos. The what I initially considered cheap/not good quality plastic shell seemed to be a fabulous asset in that it seemed to absorb the crash forces by going with them and spreading them out instead of resisting them. I would have preferred having DS4 in that seat RF over his Foonfs if it had only RF longer for my long-torsoed boy and DH didn't need a butter-like harness to get it tight enough. My dream RF seat is a huge, flexible shell with an IMMI harness/crotch buckle/LATCH straps! I didn't feel the same way about FF though. I wanted more EPS foam and other methods of shock absorption for that.
 

lgenne

New member
I haven't had a Next but I did have the previous version for a travel/spare seat. I hated the RF install and wasn't thrilled about how wimpy the chest clip felt, but I was thrilled how the seat flexed in the RF crash test videos. The what I initially considered cheap/not good quality plastic shell seemed to be a fabulous asset in that it seemed to absorb the crash forces by going with them and spreading them out instead of resisting them. I would have preferred having DS4 in that seat RF over his Foonfs if it had only RF longer for my long-torsoed boy and DH didn't need a butter-like harness to get it tight enough. My dream RF seat is a huge, flexible shell with an IMMI harness/crotch buckle/LATCH straps! I didn't feel the same way about FF though. I wanted more EPS foam and other methods of shock absorption for that.



Totally! I want an Onside Air version of the SN. Air Protect, harness pads, some sort of clip to keep the continuous harness from sliding around under the seat. An IMMI buckle would be fabulous, but I don't really mind the buckle it has.
 

Hazelandlucy

Active member
For a 2.8 yr old going on a 4 day vacation, would you rather take a RF Next or a FF Coccorro? I love all the EPS foam on the Coccoro and think it must be more comfortable for plane trips, but does RF safety at this age outweigh all that?
 

Nedra

Car-Seat.org Ambassador
I love my Coccoro and find it to be one of the easiest seats to install (I have only used it RF so far) but at 2.8 years old I would definitely prefer the NEXT if it was the difference between RF and FF.


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Hazelandlucy

Active member
Does everyone go by the stated height limit of 36" and not the 1" rule with CCO RF? She is 37 inches but has room above her head.
 

murphydog77

Admin - CPST Instructor
Staff member
I haven't had a Next but I did have the previous version for a travel/spare seat. I hated the RF install and wasn't thrilled about how wimpy the chest clip felt, but I was thrilled how the seat flexed in the RF crash test videos. The what I initially considered cheap/not good quality plastic shell seemed to be a fabulous asset in that it seemed to absorb the crash forces by going with them and spreading them out instead of resisting them. I would have preferred having DS4 in that seat RF over his Foonfs if it had only RF longer for my long-torsoed boy and DH didn't need a butter-like harness to get it tight enough. My dream RF seat is a huge, flexible shell with an IMMI harness/crotch buckle/LATCH straps! I didn't feel the same way about FF though. I wanted more EPS foam and other methods of shock absorption for that.

:yeahthat: Seats without EPS foam are designed to flex in a crash. The plastic may have different properties throughout the shell to accommodate this flex and it has different thicknesses. There's actually quite a bit of engineering that go into these less expensive seats. It would be easier to slap some EPS in them.
 

ketchupqueen

CPST and ketchup snob
Staff member
Yes! It's just a different mode of energy management. :)

I've seen videos of Sceneras being run over by large trucks and bouncing back rather than breaking!
 

Nedra

Car-Seat.org Ambassador
Yes! It's just a different mode of energy management. :)

I've seen videos of Sceneras being run over by large trucks and bouncing back rather than breaking!



Can you post those videos!? I would love to see that!


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MamaChirpy

New member
Yes! It's just a different mode of energy management. :)

I've seen videos of Sceneras being run over by large trucks and bouncing back rather than breaking!



WHAT!!!!???? [emoji23]
That is so cool!!!! I would love to see that!!!


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cookie123

New member
Honestly I'm about over the expensive, heavy seats. I take my seats in and out as I use them infrequently. I'd like to see something light that still has a lock off, a decent harness/buckle and premium latch. No continuous harness which just leads to twisting.

I've been considering a Next for Nolan. The only thing stopping me is the thought of installing rfing on a slippery leather Prius seat.
 

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