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| Child Safety Seat Installation, Compatibility and Technical Questions Discuss Proper Use of Infant, Convertible, Combination and Booster Seats, Automobile Compatibility, Three Across and Install Problems. |
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Location: Suburban Chicago, IL
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
Make/Model/Year: Toyota Sienna 04 Install method: Seatbelts - all lap/shoulder belts Configuration of seats: Outboard rear-facing, middle forward facing Seats used: 2MA (center and outboard), 1DC (outboard) Checked by a Tech: Yes see thread with pics here Unfortunately I tried this with 2MAs and 1BV (DC replaced with BV by Britax) and I could not get a good fit. It must be due to them all having the LATCH bars. The DC doesn't have LATCH bars which is why I was able to get the 3 of them to fit nice and snug. I think the absence of the LATCH bars just gave a smidgen of extra room. Amazing how that one difference made such a HUGE difference.
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
I would monopolize the thread if I tried to list ALL the 3 acrosses I've done in the past 10 years, LOL.
So I'll just post what I've learned doing 3 across. 1. don't assume. A big car seat may fit in a 3 across in a small car. Even in a space where a smaller seat did not fit. A combination of seats that seems impossible may work if you change what goes where. Or what child uses which seat. Driver and passenger outboard positions are not necessarily identical. 2. Don't be afraid to try something someone else found impossible. 3. Don't measure. The numbers NEVER add up to enough space, but that doesn't mean squat. 4. You may end up with a car seat brand you said you would never buy. (I may have to buy another d@mn Radian in the near future) 5. Don't attempt a 3 across when you are really hungry/tired/annoyed with the world. You'll end up throwing something expensive down on the driveway in disgust. 6. Do keep your sense of humor when the cop stops to ask you what you are doing in your bathrobe throwing stuff around in the driveway at 2 AM. 7.Remember that new seats are almost always cheaper than new cars. Practice saying this in the mirror before breaking the news to your SO. 8. Find a car seat buddy to play 3 across with. ( JULIE!!) Make sure to have lots of ice cream and root beer on-hand to see you through it.
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Proud mommy of ![]() Becky 17! Danny 13 Hope 11~Auntie to William-13, David-8, and Logan 10 months~
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NW Washington
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
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Julie, may I use this at my meeting next week? It's wonderful and SO TRUE!
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Joni Sunshine, 10 1/2 years, 5'2", 100 lbs in a 15.5" saddle ![]() |
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee
RF MA/Combi Tyro infant seat/FF Scenera All with belts Checked by a tech 1998 Ford Taurus RF MA/RF Scenera/RF Scenera RF Scenera/FF Scenera/RF Combi Tyro Infant seat 2001 Chevy Venture, 3 bucket seats in middle row RF MA (LATCH), RF or FF Scenera (ALR lap belt), RF or FF Radian (l/s belt) RF MA (LATCH), RF or FF Triumph (ALR lap belt), RF or FF Radian (l/s belt) RF MA (LATCH), RF Combi Tyro infant seat, RF or FF Radian or Triumph (l/s belt) *Radian installs RF in the center seat but is incompatible FF with the ALR lap belt. Checked by a tech.
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CPS Technician
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NW Washington
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
You are a tech Anna
But you're right, that doesn't work.
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Joni Sunshine, 10 1/2 years, 5'2", 100 lbs in a 15.5" saddle ![]() |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tennessee
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
My three across scenerios, obviously all with belts:
1997 Intrepid: Every combination that I tried (I can't even remember them all), RFing or FFing, of Decathlon, FPSVD, Snugride, older Triumph, or Touriva. Locking clips (or the lock-offs) were required to keep my belts tight, even with the flip the latchplate trick, for all of the installs I tried. The Snugride is a little tricky to get into its base when installed passenger side next to a FFing Decathlon. The Graco Nautilus, while it shockingly has a belt path that holds the belt at the correct angle so the locking mechanism actually works, will definitely NOT fit outboard next to a RFing Decathlon/FPSVD, that arrangement doesn't even come close to working. 1998 2 door Chevy Cavalier I've never actually put 3 across in this car, but I was able to install a RFing Touriva passenger outboard with a FFing FPSVD center. There was room for another narrow seat like the Touriva or a narrow booster driver's side outboard.
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Liz Mom to: Rachael (11/03), Emily (8/06), and Naomi (1/09) |
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
2007 Ford F150
FF MA, FF/RF MA, FF MA FF MA, FF radian, FF/RF MA Basically any way I work it I can get 3 across easily outboard ones with latch & center with seatbelt. |
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
07 Jeep JK, 4 door Wrangler
Not too hard. All use center seatbelt, most outboard installations use LATCH. RFing Britax/FFing Britax, FFing RN, RFing Britax/Combi Conection/Parkway/Evenflo Chase (The FFing RN with seatbelt is not for the faint of heart!) Really, most anything would fit three across, although you'd have to be creative with a Regent :-)
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
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It was me (safeinthecar) that posted this, not Julie . Julie used to be my car seat buddy before we both moved out of the Bay Area.But you are welcome to use it if you like.
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Proud mommy of ![]() Becky 17! Danny 13 Hope 11~Auntie to William-13, David-8, and Logan 10 months~
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
I remember seeing Kimberly when I wrote that. Sorry. Thanks for letting use it. We'll all have a good laugh.
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Carseat Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Michiana area
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Zealand
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
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Carseat Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
If she doesn't have LATCH in the centre, then the RN is a PITB to install FF with the seatbelt. That may be why it's outboard.
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Carseat Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
I got 3 across in a 2001 Pontiac Aztek.
Evenflo embrace, LATCH, Passenger side outboard Sunshine Kids Radian, lap belt, centre, FF Cosco Alpha Omega Elite, LATCH, RF or FF, Driver's side outboard. Not checked by a tech (except online with pictures )Note: in the pictures, both RF seats are braced against the front seats, which they shouldn't be. They need 1" clearance. I don't have the heart to redo this in the middle of winter so it will be warm weather before I can retake the pictures. ![]()
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
It probably would work better in the manner you described. I actually just tried it out for fun sice I had purchased a Radian for our other car (incompatible, btw). I don't have my hands a RN at present to try it out. I think when the baby comes I might try a RN FF in the middle for my then 3 yr old, and a snugride outboard for the baby. I will miss my MA though, it's my fave seat ever.
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CPS Technician
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Canada
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
Once you figure out the tricks it really isnt' all that hard. I have installed the Radian FF with a seatbelt several times and don't have problems with it.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Western New York
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
3 across in a 2000 Chevrolet Impala
Passenger outboard: Graco ss1 Middle: Britax Regent Driver outboard: Britax Marathon FF All installed with seatbelt (doesn't have latch), Regent and Marathon tethered Not checked by a tech but all very solid independently of each other Will try soon with the ss1, graco airbooster, and regent. Also will try a marathon, regent, and airbooster. |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: West Virginia
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
YEAR/MAKE/MODEL: 2005 Pontiac wide track grand prix
SEATS: Driver's side outboard-FF safety1st intera(base removed) Center-Graco safeseat1 with base Passenger side outborad- FF Cosco scenera TYPE OF INSTALL: All seats installed with vehicle belt. FF outboard seats locked via the retractor and Safeseat1(center position) locked using built in lock-off *Was able to get better fits for all 3 seats using vehicle belt vs latch. *Not checked by a tech, but all are installed independent of each other. will update later with picture.
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DD1 [2004] 47lbs, SK Monterey DS [2005] 40.9lbs, FF Cougar Regent DD2 [2007] 40.7lbs, FF Graco Nautilus Wishing someone would pass the water |
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Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Re: Successful Three Across thread
2006 Kia Sedona, rear bench.
Graco Nautilus, Britax Decathlon, Sunshine Kids Radian 80.
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