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How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
We are constantly asked about winter coats in our climate. Here is a safe way to wear a winter coat in the carseat. It's important to always test to make sure the harness is snug enough.
Put your child in the seat without a coat on and adjust the harness correctly. Now take your child out of the seat and do *not* loosen the harness. Put the coat on and put the child back in the seat. If you do not have to loosen the harness to make it fit, the coat is fine. If it is too bulky, read on to learn the coat trick. The coat trick allows you to keep your jacket on without compromising the tightness of the harness. Okay, confession time... The coat is an "on the thinner side" one from Walmart... I think it cost me $30. It is his winter coat that he wears outside to play in the snow with. It is slightly too big for him, but I didn't want him to outgrow it half way through winter. He is also wearing both inner and outer layers in that photo. Did I mention this was confession time? This is why the coat trick works... even with all those no-no's the harness is still the exact same snugness as it is with him just wearing a t-shirt. You can see one side of the coat pulled through the harness... ![]() Both sides pulled through the harness with the buckle done up... ![]() Coat zipped up over the harness...
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
Or you can have them wear it backwards, over the harness!
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
You absolutely can wear it backwards over the harness.
![]() However that is not always practical here in Canada where it can frequently get down to -40 degrees celsius with/plus the windchill. This offers a safe alternative so that you never have to take the jacket off.
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
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Carseat Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
That is a really great idea! I've been trying to find a trick for J's jacket. It is the thin LE Marinac, but since he is small even the smallest size (4) is big on him. It bunches up and makes the harness really tight and hard to buckle. I've been pulling the bottom part of the jacket up so that the bottom of the harness is against his shirt instead of the jacket, and that helps some. I didn't think of actually pulling it through the harness strap though.
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
I tell parents to take it one step further - pull the jacket off the SHOULDERS so the harness is a close as possible. (It's not usually -42 around here, but it does hit in the negative numbers, especially the windchill)
You'd still be able to zip it most of the way up. This goes for adults, too. |
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
I do that, but I never thought to zip it up afterwards. lol
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
Coats that have snaps/velcro in addition to zippers work even better: faster than zipping the zipper and you only really need 1 or 2 to cut the draft to the tummy or neck.
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Iowa
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
THANK YOU for posting this "trick"! I have tested our harness and I squish my toddler, wearing her coat normally, into the harness at the correct tightness, but it takes time and effort. The hood is up and the coat is smoothed all around, any bunching in the coat and it is nearly impossible to buckle the harness. The backwards trick does NOT work for us unfortunately, my toddler just takes off the coat and throws it off. Temps here are in the teens, not as cold as some of you are suffering, but still too cold for no coat!
I'm so glad I noticed this post. I'll be trying your trick next time we get in the car. Thanks again for such useful information! |
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
K, not in a super cold climate, but does this not create airspace between child and the back of the carseat?
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
This is why you double check by putting the child in the carseat (without a jacket) and doing up the harness. Then, without loosening the harness, take the child out and try the coat trick. You should have no issues with putting the child back into the carseat without loosening the harness.
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
Also, the weight of the child will compress the back of the coat somewhat.
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
This is really great advice. Even my DH, who is usually more lax about following all the carseat safety decrees around here
, has taken to using the unzipped-jacket-pulled-under-the-straps trick, after I described it to him. I am in the long-term habit of walking around the car and double-checking harnesses after anyone else buckles the kids in (a habit which DH puts up with very patiently), and the other day I found nothing to adjust and nothing to tighten. We've also taken to not loosening harness straps between uses (DH's preference all along), because it eliminates the uncertainty about whether the harness is tight enough (and because the harness adjusters on both the Wizard and the Radian are such a PITA on that last bit of tightening).Thanks again for posting this, and I'm glad I finally tracked down this post again (wasn't it posted somewhere else initially?) so I could leave rep... Katrin |
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
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Glad you liked it!
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
Has anyone been able to use this method successfully rf?
Ds has a light coat (one layer of thin fleece with a canvas outer layer) that we use in the car. I can squeeze him in without loosening the harness any further than plain clothes (we rarely loosen the harness before buckling). I've tried Jen's method a few times and can't get the harness buckled. I gave it another try yesterday. I ended up loosening the harness just a bit and then tightening it back down, thinking I got a decent fit. Ds was yawning by the time I got him buckled, retightened and zipped so I decided to take him to the bathroom before we drove home. We just left his coat in the car and ran back in. I was surprised when I rebuckled him coatless that I had to tighten it at least another inch. I think the angle of the straps coming from below the shoulder coupled with bulges in the coat near his collar bone to route the coat to the outside just doesn't leave enough webbing to work with. anyone else? |
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
i can't get it rf either. i have dd2 in a ma. no matter what i pull where i can't rebuckle the harness.
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
If the coat has a hood that is not detachable, that might make the flaps of the coat not "spread" enough. Maybe?
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
WAY back in the day, Monika back on the PP board posted about this trick.
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
I always did it rf... just have to make sure that you either use a coat without a hood or that the hood won't interfere.
pull the sides completely free of the harnesses (not tucked in at all), which requires a hood that is narrow at the neck area. it helps if you loosen the straps first to put baby in (if doing the check, just don't loosen when you unbuckle to take baby out, then put baby in without the coat), but it definitely works. I have pics of Ruthie and this trick in her Nautilus, but not as thorough. I'll have to get some more when it gets cold again next winter. |
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
Since the cold weather is approaching us I thought I would bump this
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
Excellent! I was hoping for a solution!
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
I used this method all the time last year. It works perfectly! I prefer jackets that don't have hoods or removable hoods. The kids wear a hat instead and it makes it easier to pull that jacket around the straps. I'll be trying it RF this year - hope it works!
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
I used this trick last year (RF) and am using it again this year (FF.) I really thought it worked great!
I posted a link to this thread on another board, though, and the debate started as to how this is any different than riding with a Bundle Me under a child, since there is still a layer between the seat and the child. When it's in the -20s I'm not going to take my kids coat off completely, but I didn't have a terribly good answer except that the Bundle Me can also cause the straps to be positioned incorrectly.
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Re: How to SAFELY wear a winter coat in carseats...
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Also the slots on the bundle me's go up and down (/) not sideways (-) which causes them to bunch and get caught (possibly stuck) in the slot and on the velcro. This is a great way to wear jackets in the winter. You can also put them in their seat without the jacket and tighten the harness properly, take them out without loosening the harness and then put them back in with their jacket on, again not loosening the harness so that you know it is tight enough.
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